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Re: my new project, is this the right way?

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On 11/26/2011 06:41 PM, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
> On Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:01:34 AM UTC+8, rusi wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 3:41 pm, Tracubik<affdfs...@b.com>  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> i'm developing a new program.
>>> Mission: learn a bit of database management
>>> Idea: create a simple, 1 window program that show me a db of movies i've
>>> seen with few (<10) fields (actors, name, year etc)
>>> technologies i'll use: python + gtk
>>> db: that's the question
>>>
>>> since i'm mostly a new-bye for as regard databases, my idea is to use
>>> sqlite at the beginning.
>>>
>>> Is that ok? any other db to start with? (pls don't say mysql or similar,
>>> they are too complex and i'll use this in a second step)
>>>
>>> is there any general tutorial of how to start developing a database? i
>>> mean a general guide to databases you can suggest to me?
>>> Thank you all
>>>
>>> MedeoTL
>>>
>>> P.s. since i have a ods sheet files (libreoffice calc), is there a way to
>>> easily convert it in a sqlite db? (maybe via csv)
>> To learn DBMS you need to learn sql
>> [Note sql is necessary but not sufficient for learning DBMS]
>> I recommend lightweight approaches to start with -- others have
>> mentioned access, libreoffice-base.
>> One more lightweight playpen is firefox plugin sqlite-manager
>>
>>> Is that ok? any other db to start with? (pls don't say mysql or similar,
>>> they are too complex and i'll use this in a second step)
>> Correct. First you must figure out how to structure data -- jargon is
>> normalization.
>> After that you can look at transactions, ACID, distribution and all
>> the other good stuff.
> If I have a fast hash library  that each hash function supports insertion and deletion and can be frozen to be stored into the file system if desired and retrieved lator . Can I use several hashes to replace a database that is slow and expensive?
>
If you're using Python, you already have a "fast hash" library, in the 
dictionary class.  And yes, if a problem doesn't need the full 
generality of a database, you may be able to implement it with 
dictionaries, and it may even be practical to store those dictionaries 
to disk for later retrieval.  However, there are quite a few reasons 
this may not be good enough.  To start with just two:   if there are 
multiple users of the database, and they have to be synched.  Or if you 
have to be safe from a program or a system crashing.

-- 

DaveA

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my new project, is this the right way? Tracubik <affdfsdfdsfsd@b.com> - 2011-11-14 10:41 +0000
  Re: my new project, is this the right way? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-14 21:55 +1100
    Re: my new project, is this the right way? HoneyMonster <someone@someplace.invalid> - 2011-11-25 15:44 +0000
      Re: my new project, is this the right way? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 02:49 +1100
  Re: my new project, is this the right way? Redcat <redcat@catfolks.net> - 2011-11-14 15:47 +0000
  Re: my new project, is this the right way? Jon Clements <joncle@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-14 08:37 -0800
  Re: my new project, is this the right way? Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> - 2011-11-14 09:48 -0800
  Re: my new project, is this the right way? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 09:01 -0800
    Re: my new project, is this the right way? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-11-25 12:16 -0500
      Re: my new project, is this the right way? rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 20:48 -0800
    Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-26 15:41 -0800
      Re: my new project, is this the right way? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-11-26 21:35 -0500
        Re: my new project, is this the right way? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-11-26 21:49 -0500
          Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-26 19:14 -0800
            Re: my new project, is this the right way? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-27 14:24 +1100
            Re: my new project, is this the right way? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-11-26 22:27 -0500
            Re: my new project, is this the right way? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-11-26 22:41 -0500
      Re: my new project, is this the right way? Matt Joiner <anacrolix@gmail.com> - 2011-11-27 15:03 +1100
        Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-27 00:29 -0800
          Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-27 00:49 -0800
            Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-28 00:51 -0800
            Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-28 00:51 -0800
          Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-27 00:49 -0800
        Re: my new project, is this the right way? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-27 00:29 -0800

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