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| From | Stefan Hagen <stefan@dilettant.eu> |
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| Subject | Ammended proposal: Python 832? Re: The next major Python version will be Python 8 |
| Date | Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:34:54 +0200 |
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Sorry for the blunt terseness, but wasn't the plan to target Python 832 i.e. 8.3.2 as a single, frozen thus *eternal* version tag to firstly integrate all beauty (PEP8), good (3.x), bad (2.x) and secondly **never** have to embrace those thrilling, dirty changes again, was it? $ python832 -m stefan Before you write, think, after you read. Am 01.04.16 um 00:26 schrieb Victor Stinner: > Hi, > > Python 3 becomes more and more popular and is close to a dangerous point > where it can become popular that Python 2. The PSF decided that it's > time to elaborate a new secret plan to ensure that Python users suffer > again with a new major release breaking all their legacy code. > > The PSF is happy to announce that the new Python release will be > Python 8! > > Why the version 8? It's just to be greater than Perl 6 and PHP 7, but > it's also a mnemonic for PEP 8. By the way, each minor release will now > multiply the version by 2. With Python 8 released in 2016 and one > release every two years, we will beat Firefox 44 in 2022 (Python 64) and > Windows 2003 in 2032 (Python 2048). > > A major release requires a major change to justify a version bump: the > new killer feature is that it's no longer possible to import a module > which does not respect the PEP 8. It ensures that all your code is pure. > Example: > > $ python8 -c 'import keyword' > Lib/keyword.py:16:1: E122 continuation line missing indentation or outdented > Lib/keyword.py:16:1: E265 block comment should start with '# ' > Lib/keyword.py:50:1: E122 continuation line missing indentation or outdented > (...) > ImportError: no pep8, no glory > > Good news: since *no* module of the current standard library of Python 3 > respect the PEP 8, the standard library will be simplified to one > unique module, which is new in Python 8: pep8. The standard library will > move to the Python Cheeseshop (PyPI), to reply to an old and popular > request. > > > DON'T PANIC! You are still able to import your legacy code into > Python 8, you just have to rename all your modules to add a "_noqa" suffix > to the filename. For example, rename utils.py to utils_noqa.py. A side > effect is that you have to update all imports. For example, replace > "import django" with "import django_noqa". After a study of the PSF, > it's a best option to split again the Python community and make sure > that all users are angry. > > > The plan is that in 10 years, at least 50% of the 77,000 packages on the > Python cheeseshop will be updated to get the "_noqa" tag. After 2020, > the PSF will start to sponsor trolls to harass users of the legacy > Python 3 to force them to migrate to Python 8. > > > Python 8 is a work-in-progress (it's still an alpha version), the > standard library was not removed yet. Hopefully, trying to import any > module of the standard library fails. > > Don't hesitate to propose more ideas to make Python 8 more incompatible > with Python 3! > > Note: The change is already effective in the default branch of Python: > https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/9aedec2dbc01 > > Have fun, > Victor > -- Stefan Hagen read://stefan-hagen.website talk://0049 151 70 89 64 00
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