Re: Supply condition in function call

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Date	2015-03-28 18:45 +1100
Subject	Re: Supply condition in function call
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Message-ID	<mailman.288.1427528744.10327.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>>  |  Methods defined here:
>
> This is the usual guff that help() prints when you pass it a class or type.
> Occasionally it is useful. Often it is not, especially the dunder methods.
>
> Unfortunately help's UI is rather primitive. It would be nice if it provided
> a menu of commands whereby you could hide/show dunders (hidden by default,
> perhaps), but that's an order of magnitude more complexity. It might make a
> nice third-party tool though.

This is why I would never point someone to help() as a means of
primary learning. It's great for quickly checking a function's
parameters (especially their order) when you already know what it
does. Otherwise, how do you know what to call help() on? Much more
useful to start with the online module docs, which are searchable
(unlike help(modulename), broadly speaking), and which omit all the
dunders.

ChrisA

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Supply condition in function call Manuel Graune <manuel.graune@koeln.de> - 2015-03-25 18:29 +0100
  Re: Supply condition in function call Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 13:41 -0400
    Re: Supply condition in function call Manuel Graune <manuel.graune@koeln.de> - 2015-03-25 18:51 +0100
      Re: Supply condition in function call Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:17 -0400
      Re: Supply condition in function call Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 12:22 -0600
      Re: Supply condition in function call Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:42 -0400
  Re: Supply condition in function call Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 11:44 -0600
    Re: Supply condition in function call Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-25 19:53 +0000
      Re: Supply condition in function call Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:49 -0600
        Re: Supply condition in function call Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-26 15:41 +0000
  Re: Supply condition in function call Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-03-25 14:50 -0400
  Re: Supply condition in function call Gary Herron <gherron@digipen.edu> - 2015-03-25 12:13 -0700
    Re: Supply condition in function call Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 21:02 -0700
      Re: Supply condition in function call Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 17:00 +1100
        Re: Supply condition in function call Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 18:41 -0700
          Re: Supply condition in function call Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-27 12:56 +1100
            Re: Supply condition in function call Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 19:21 -0700
              Re: Supply condition in function call Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-27 15:34 +1100
                Re: Supply condition in function call Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-27 06:48 -0700
                Re: Supply condition in function call Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 01:17 +1100
                Re: Supply condition in function call Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-27 16:00 +0000
                Re: Supply condition in function call Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-28 18:32 +1100
                Re: Supply condition in function call Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 18:45 +1100
            Re: Supply condition in function call Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-27 17:26 -0700
              Re: Supply condition in function call Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-27 18:27 -0700
              Re: Supply condition in function call Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-03-28 09:50 +0200
                Re: Supply condition in function call Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-28 20:17 +1100
                Re: Supply condition in function call Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 03:19 -0600
                Re: Supply condition in function call Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-03-28 20:57 +1100
                Re: Supply condition in function call Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-03-30 09:35 +1100
                Re: Supply condition in function call Manuel Graune <manuel.graune@koeln.de> - 2015-03-30 00:46 +0200
          Re: Supply condition in function call Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 20:25 -0600
            Re: Supply condition in function call Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 19:46 -0700
    Re: Supply condition in function call Manuel Graune <manuel.graune@koeln.de> - 2015-03-26 07:27 +0100
      Re: Supply condition in function call Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-03-26 18:06 +1100
        Re: Supply condition in function call Manuel Graune <manuel.graune@koeln.de> - 2015-03-27 21:02 +0100
          Re: Supply condition in function call Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-03-28 09:55 +1100
      Re: Supply condition in function call Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-03-26 10:03 +0100
        Re: Supply condition in function call Manuel Graune <manuel.graune@koeln.de> - 2015-03-27 20:46 +0100
          Re: Supply condition in function call Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-03-27 21:38 +0100
  Re: Supply condition in function call smap <askme.first@thankyouverymuch.invalid> - 2015-03-28 08:58 +0000

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