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Paul Rubin wrote: > Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes: >>> But there's no way to know what that minimum is. Python libraries throw >>> all sorts of exceptions that their documentation doesn't mention. >> Yes, you're absolutely correct. But it's also irrelevant. Most of those >> exceptions should not be caught, even if you know what they are, because >> they represent either bugs that should be fixed, or bad data which should >> raise an exception. A bare except, or except Exception, is hardly ever the >> right approach. > > I'm not sure what to do instead. The exceptions I'm currently dealing > with happen when certain network operations go wrong (e.g. network or > remote host is down, connection fails, etc.) The remedy in each case is > to catch the exception, log the error, and try the operation again > later. But there's no guaranteed-to-be-complete list in the Python docs > of all the exceptions that can be thrown. A new and surprising mode of > network failure can lead to an unhandled exception, unless you catch > everything. In a case like this I can see catching everything so long as (which you say you are doing) you log the error somehow -- what's really frustrating is when the error is simply tossed with no record whatsoever... what a pain to debug! ~Ethan~
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try... except with unknown error types Yingjie Lin <Yingjie.Lin@mssm.edu> - 2011-08-19 15:09 -0400
Re: try... except with unknown error types John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-08-19 19:14 +0000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-20 06:13 +1000
Re: try... except with unknown error types John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-08-19 20:24 +0000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-20 06:45 +1000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-20 05:46 +0000
Re: try... except with unknown error types John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2011-08-20 13:15 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-20 12:18 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-21 06:14 +1000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-21 11:26 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-21 20:17 +0100
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-22 10:30 +1000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-22 01:41 +0100
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-22 14:01 +1000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-23 00:21 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 09:26 +0100
Re: try... except with unknown error types gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-08-23 04:43 -0400
Re: try... except with unknown error types Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-23 10:43 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 10:07 +0100
Re: try... except with unknown error types John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2011-08-31 21:22 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-08-21 12:22 -0700
Re: try... except with unknown error types Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-08-21 15:52 -0400
Re: try... except with unknown error types Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-08-31 21:01 +0000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Stefan Krah <stefan-usenet@bytereef.org> - 2011-09-09 23:41 +0200
Re: try... except with unknown error types Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-09-10 10:33 +0100
Re: try... except with unknown error types Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2011-09-10 12:17 +0200
Re: try... except with unknown error types Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-21 17:14 -0400
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-22 10:25 +1000
Re: try... except with unknown error types Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-21 22:09 -0400
Re: try... except with unknown error types Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-23 18:33 +1000
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