Re: logging: warn() methods and function to be deprecated.

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Date	Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC)
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Mike C. Fletcher <mcfletch <at> vrplumber.com> writes:

> More: an undocumented entry point is not "deprecated" because, after
> all, it shows up in PyDoc as a regular method.

Deprecated methods also show up in PyDoc. Of course, if the deprecation is
mentioned in the docstring, users would see this - but if it isn't, they
wouldn't know until they got a DeprecationWarning.

> auto-translation via 2to3 (because you generally are calling log.warn()
> rather than logging.warning, but sometimes you are doing getattr( log,
> log_level ) and then passing that method around a few times), and it

That doesn't sound like a good usage pattern to me, especially as loggers have a
log method which takes the logging level. There shouldn't be any need to pass a
bound method around.

Regards,

Vinay Sajip

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Re: logging: warn() methods and function to be deprecated. Vinay Sajip <vinay_sajip@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-10-26 14:51 +0000

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