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Re: try..except with empty exceptions

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On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> Yes, I agree that Python's behaviour here is better than the alternative.
> Having "except ()" catch nothing is consistent with the behaviour with
> other tuples, so I'm okay with that. But it still surprised me :-)

It's worth noting that there's another false parallel here. Grouping
nothing creates something.

x = 1   # x is an integer
x = (1)  # ditto
x = (((((((((1)))))))))  # LITHP

Okay, so adding parentheses does nothing, right? Right.

x =  # syntax error
x = ()  # empty tuple

"Parentheses around nothing" is NOT the same as "nothing". So if you
compare against this, then it makes perfect sense for "except :" and
"except ():" to be distinctly different.

But I agree, it would be very nice if Python 3 could have abolished
the truly confusing part of this, where "except:" catches everything.
Forcing people to spell it "except BaseException:" would fix all of
this. How hard is it to deprecate and then remove that, same as string
exceptions were removed?

You know what, I'm moving that to -ideas.

ChrisA

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try..except with empty exceptions Pavel S <pavel@schon.cz> - 2015-04-10 01:48 -0700
  Re: try..except with empty exceptions Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:58 +1000
  Re: try..except with empty exceptions sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-04-10 12:31 -0700
    Re: try..except with empty exceptions Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-11 11:42 +1000
      Re: try..except with empty exceptions Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-10 22:23 -0400
        Re: try..except with empty exceptions Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 19:38 -0700
          Re: try..except with empty exceptions Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-10 23:46 -0400
            Re: try..except with empty exceptions Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 21:17 -0700
              Re: try..except with empty exceptions Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 21:39 -0700
          Re: try..except with empty exceptions Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-04-11 19:27 +1000
            Re: try..except with empty exceptions Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-11 21:00 +1000
              Re: try..except with empty exceptions Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 21:21 +1000
              Re: try..except with empty exceptions Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 12:49 -0600
              Re: try..except with empty exceptions Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 06:04 +1000
              Re: try..except with empty exceptions Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-04-12 06:05 +1000
        Re: try..except with empty exceptions Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-11 17:11 +1000
          Re: try..except with empty exceptions Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 11:22 +0300
            Re: try..except with empty exceptions Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-04-11 20:47 +1000
          Re: try..except with empty exceptions Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-11 06:14 -0400
          Re: try..except with empty exceptions Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-11 06:24 -0400
          Re: try..except with empty exceptions Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2015-04-11 15:20 +0100
      Re: try..except with empty exceptions Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-04-11 04:58 -0400
  Re: try..except with empty exceptions Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-04-10 16:27 -0400
  Re: try..except with empty exceptions Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:56 -0700

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