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Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python"

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On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <mailman.192.1379694881.18130.python-list@python.org>,
>  Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I hope that cleared some confusion about what I wanted to ask. I wanted to
>> > gauge myself to find if I am progressing or not.
>>
>> Well, based on my definition, that's easy to answer. Have you solved
>> problems using Python? If you have a bunch of HTML pages and you need
>> to get some info out of all of them by COB today, do you think "I can
>> do that with Python", or do you think "I can do that with sed, awk,
>> grep, and five levels of pipe"? The tools you use for an urgent job
>> will be the ones you know.
>
> The fact that you reach for traditional command-line tools to parse HTML
> should not be taken as evidence that you don't know Python.  It should
> be taken as evidence that you have a lot of tools in your quiver and
> know when to use the right one.
>
> I started with Python in the 1.4 days.  I will reach for Python these
> days in preference to Perl, Tcl, C, C++, Java, or PHP for most things.
> But, for a lot of basic text processing, I can throw together a sed,
> awk, grep, sort, uniq, wc, tac, tail, etc pipeline faster than I can
> write a Python program to do the same thing.

Oh, absolutely! I never said that sed/awk/grep was a bad way to do
things; my point is that, when there are dozens of viable solutions to
a problem and you have to solve that problem *now*, you are going to
reach for the one you know best. I use sed all the time (it's one of
the easiest ways to edit a root-owned file from a non-root shell
script - 'sudo sed -i').

ChrisA

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What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 02:58 -0700
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 04:43 -0700
    Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 14:39 +0100
      Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 08:50 -0700
        Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 09:28 -0700
          Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 02:34 +1000
            Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 10:40 -0700
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 10:51 -0700
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 12:06 +1000
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-09-21 02:22 -0400
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-22 12:44 -0400
            Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-09-20 22:31 -0400
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 12:54 +1000
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-09-20 06:53 -0500
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 00:26 +1000
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 09:23 -0700
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Jugurtha Hadjar <jugurtha.hadjar@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 18:07 +0100
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-09-20 18:26 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-09-22 14:55 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-09-22 15:48 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-22 23:29 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-09-23 00:10 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-09-23 19:34 -0700
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Schneider <js@globe.de> - 2013-09-26 12:16 +0200

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