Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA

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Date	2013-09-16 18:48 +1000
Subject	Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Message-ID	<mailman.21.1379321329.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Antoon Pardon
<antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote:
> Op 16-09-13 10:19, Chris Angelico schreef:
>> It's a contribution that SAYS that it looks carelessly written. I
>> think most people here are intelligent enough to know that that's
>> different from actual carelessness.
>
> The question is, should they care about that difference. The end
> result is a contribution that is just as hard to read.

Is it, really? I throw the question open: Is it really just as
difficult to read a deliberately-pointed-out sloppiness as an actual
one? And is it as much of a problem to the list?

>> In a debate, you make points and counterpoints. In most debates, you
>> also gain (or lose) "points for style". Steven scored plenty of the
>> latter IMO.
>
> And why should we accept you as the arbiter for this?

"We" shouldn't. Style points are per-listener. In my eyes he did well.
You may well disagree.

>> You're here making a straw-man and a false dichotomy; I
>> believe that "making a point" is sufficient justification for what
>> Steven and I did, but I don't think it justifies "any kind of means".
>
> Then your argument was incomplete, because it just mentioned making
> a point as if that in itself was sufficient.

Context. Context. Context. Sufficient justification for what it was
used for. You do not seriously believe that that needs to be spelled
out?

>> I would not, for instance, destroy Nikos's server, data, or access to
>> either, to make a point; and history will confirm this.
>
> No it doesn't.

No? He gave me his root password - check the list archives. I did none
of the above three destructive actions (nor any other destructive
action), even though it would have made my point much stronger to do
so.

ChrisA

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Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 08:54 -0700
  Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Joost Molenaar <j.j.molenaar@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 20:59 +0200
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA SuperHost - Nikos <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-15 23:56 +0300
  Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 07:31 +1000
  Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-15 17:57 -0400
  Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-16 01:52 +0000
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 09:44 +0300
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-16 09:29 +0200
      Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 11:04 +0300
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 17:44 +1000
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 17:46 +1000
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-16 10:07 +0200
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 18:12 +1000
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-16 10:12 +0200
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 18:19 +1000
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-16 10:43 +0200
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 18:48 +1000
    Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-16 11:40 +0200
      Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 12:45 +0300
        Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Joost Molenaar <j.j.molenaar@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 12:06 +0200
          Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 11:21 +0000
            Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 14:37 +0300
              Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-09-16 13:44 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 15:11 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-09-16 14:17 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-16 14:56 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 18:02 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 19:09 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 17:07 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 00:18 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-16 23:41 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-09-17 12:46 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-17 14:37 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 18:17 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 16:30 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 00:42 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 07:47 +1000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-09-17 18:34 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-18 05:20 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-18 18:31 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-18 23:55 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-17 19:29 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Νίκος <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 12:21 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-09-21 09:29 -0400
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                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2013-09-17 22:58 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 07:55 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 15:11 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 13:51 +0100
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-17 14:52 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Jake Angulo <jake.angulo@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 13:56 +1000
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                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-20 08:48 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 10:26 +0100
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-09-17 14:22 +0200
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 19:15 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 19:23 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-09-16 19:07 +0000
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-09-16 13:53 -0400
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-17 00:15 +0300
                Re: Tryign to send mail via a python script by using the local MTA Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-09-16 20:40 -0500
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