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Re: the global keyword:

From Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: the global keyword:
Date 2016-06-21 10:08 +0200
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Op 20-06-16 om 16:53 schreef Steven D'Aprano:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:29 pm, Random832 wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016, at 08:15, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> Bart didn't say anyone had defended it. He made an observation:
>>>
>>> "that's a good illustration of why 'y' isn't a name reference to 'x'"
>>>
>>> which is factually correct. And this does refer to the "ducks limp"
>>> thread.
>> Except it doesn't. Because no-one on that thread made the claim that it
>> is. There's absolutely nothing in the thread (except maybe earlier
>> instances of him and you misrepresenting others' claims) about 'y' being
>> a name reference to 'x', so there's nothing in that thread for it to
>> reasonably refer to.
> The thread is a discussion about name binding and references. And what do
> you know, the hypothetical "name y is a reference to name x" is, amazingly,
> about name binding and references! Hence the connection between the two.

But being about name bindings and reference doesn't imply it is about
name references.

> You know, there's not actually a rule or law that says you have to
> automatically take the contrary position to everything I say.

There is also not a rule of law that says you have to automatically introduce
semantic games into the discussion when someone else might have a point.

-- 
Antoon.

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  Re: the global keyword: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-11 19:50 -0400
    Re: the global keyword: Marcin Rak <mrak@sightlineinnovation.com> - 2016-06-11 17:12 -0700
      Re: the global keyword: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-11 21:27 -0400
    Re: the global keyword: Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 20:15 -0700
      Re: the global keyword: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-12 14:46 -0400
  Re: the global keyword: MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2016-06-12 01:09 +0100
    Re: the global keyword: Marcin Rak <mrak@sightlineinnovation.com> - 2016-06-11 17:13 -0700
      Re: the global keyword: Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2016-06-11 20:41 -0700
  Re: the global keyword: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-11 21:26 -0400
    Re: the global keyword: Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-12 13:38 +1000
      Re: the global keyword: Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2016-06-11 20:48 -0700
        Re: the global keyword: Marcin Rak <mrak@sightlineinnovation.com> - 2016-06-12 11:31 -0700
  Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-12 20:07 +0100
    Re: the global keyword: Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2016-06-12 12:25 -0700
      Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-12 22:10 +0100
        Re: the global keyword: Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-06-19 16:35 +0200
          Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-19 22:20 +0100
            Re: the global keyword: Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-06-20 13:14 +0200
              Re: the global keyword: Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-20 22:15 +1000
                Re: the global keyword: Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-06-20 15:04 +0200
                Re: the global keyword: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-20 09:29 -0400
                Re: the global keyword: Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-21 00:53 +1000
                Re: the global keyword: Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-06-21 10:08 +0200
                Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-21 11:41 +0100
                Re: the global keyword: Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-06-21 13:01 +0200
        Re: the global keyword: Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 13:16 -0400
          Re: the global keyword: Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 22:50 -0700
          Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-20 11:21 +0100
            Re: the global keyword: Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-20 22:03 +1000
    Re: the global keyword: Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 10:04 -0700
      Re: the global keyword: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-21 13:15 -0400
        Re: the global keyword: Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 15:20 -0700
          Re: the global keyword: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 08:32 +1000
            Re: the global keyword: Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 16:43 -0700
          Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-22 00:15 +0100
            Re: the global keyword: Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 17:24 -0700
              Re: the global keyword: BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-06-22 10:24 +0100
                Re: the global keyword: Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-24 11:00 +1000
                Re: the global keyword: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 11:19 +1000
                Re: the global keyword: eryk sun <eryksun@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 02:19 +0000
          Re: the global keyword: Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 16:50 -0700

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