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Re: list storing variables

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Date 2015-02-24 06:17 +1100
Subject Re: list storing variables
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.19096.1424719540.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> What I'm saying is that there's nothing special about Python's object
> model or variables. Guido could decide tomorrow to add a C-esque "&"
> operator to Python without breaking a single existing Python program.
> The Python compiler would simply generate code like above.

Actually, there's a fairly huge difference. All you've done is create
a thing which can set a global... you don't have any way to pass
pointers around, like you can in C. (And that's even without getting
into pointer *arithmetic*.) You have to construct a dedicated "thing"
in your source code for every pointer you want to be able to work
with. And if you try to make a single generic "Ampersand" class, what
you'll find is that you're working with namespaces, not addresses. So
Python's name-binding model really is fundamentally different from C's
stuff-in-memory model.

ChrisA

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list storing variables "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2015-02-23 13:55 +0100
  Re: list storing variables Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-02-23 08:24 -0500
  Re: list storing variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-23 15:49 +0200
  Re: list storing variables Peter Pearson <pkpearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2015-02-23 17:35 +0000
    Re: list storing variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-23 20:22 +0200
      Re: list storing variables Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-02-23 19:41 +0100
        Re: list storing variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-23 21:06 +0200
          Re: list storing variables Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-02-24 06:17 +1100
            Re: list storing variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-23 22:25 +0200
          Re: list storing variables Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-02-23 12:29 -0700
            Re: list storing variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-23 22:38 +0200
  Re: list storing variables Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-02-24 09:03 +1100
    Re: list storing variables Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-02-24 13:24 +1100
      Re: list storing variables Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-24 10:18 +0200

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