Re: Design thought for callbacks

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"Cem Karan" <cfkaran2@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Hi all, I'm working on a project that will involve the use of callbacks, 
> and I want to bounce an idea I had off of everyone to make sure I'm not 
> developing a bad idea.  Note that this is for python 3.4 code; I don't 
> need to worry about any version of python earlier than that.
>
> In order to inform users that certain bits of state have changed, I 
> require them to register a callback with my code.  The problem is that 
> when I store these callbacks, it naturally creates a strong reference to 
> the objects, which means that if they are deleted without unregistering 
> themselves first, my code will keep the callbacks alive.  Since this could 
> lead to really weird and nasty situations, I would like to store all the 
> callbacks in a WeakSet 
> (https://docs.python.org/3/library/weakref.html#weakref.WeakSet).  That 
> way, my code isn't the reason why the objects are kept alive, and if they 
> are no longer alive, they are automatically removed from the WeakSet, 
> preventing me from accidentally calling them when they are dead.  My 
> question is simple; is this a good design?  If not, why not?
>   Are there any potential 'gotchas' I should be worried about?
>

I tried something similar a while ago, and I did find a gotcha.

The problem lies in this phrase - "if they are no longer alive, they are 
automatically removed from the WeakSet, preventing me from accidentally 
calling them when they are dead."

I found that the reference was not removed immediately, but was waiting to 
be garbage collected. During that window, I could call the callback, which 
resulted in an error.

There may have been a simple workaround. Perhaps someone else can comment.

Frank Millman

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Re: Design thought for callbacks "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2015-02-21 07:41 +0200
  Re: Design thought for callbacks Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-02-22 03:15 +1100
    Re: Design thought for callbacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-21 19:08 +0200
      Re: Design thought for callbacks Cem Karan <cfkaran2@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 07:16 -0500
        Re: Design thought for callbacks Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-02-22 14:46 +0200
          Re: Design thought for callbacks Cem Karan <cfkaran2@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 09:17 -0500
      Re: Design thought for callbacks Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-02-22 13:52 +0100
      Re: Design thought for callbacks Cem Karan <cfkaran2@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 09:10 -0500
    Re: Design thought for callbacks "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2015-02-22 08:44 +0200
      Re: Design thought for callbacks Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-02-22 23:15 +1300
        Re: Design thought for callbacks Cem Karan <cfkaran2@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 09:22 -0500
          Re: Design thought for callbacks Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-02-24 18:45 +1300
            Re: Design thought for callbacks Cem Karan <cfkaran2@gmail.com> - 2015-02-24 06:06 -0500
        Re: Design thought for callbacks Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-02-22 23:57 -0700

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