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Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess)

Date 2013-02-15 17:37 +0000
From Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk>
Subject Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess)
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> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> wrote:
>> How true. This last time, my team split into two: one half
>> to handle the display, the other working on the algorithm. We
>> ended up having to draw a really simple diagram on the back of
>> an envelope with the x,y pairs written out and pass it back
>> and forth as *everyone* kept forgetting which went first.


>
On 15/02/2013 15:49, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I'm sorry, I don't follow. People forgot that x comes before y, like
> it does in everything algebraic? Or is it that people lost track of
> which axis you called 'x' and which you called 'y'?


 > On 15/02/2013 16:48, Jussi Piitulainen wrote:
 > Surely you knew to have f1(board, x, y) for getting whatever is at
 > (x,y) and f2(store, x, y, wev) for putting wev at (x,y). Why didn't
 > you do that?

To be honest I don't remember exactly what we did get confused
over; it was probably whether our origin was top left and/or
whether we were storing in row or in column order. But in any
case, my experience is that stuff which is perfectly easy to
reason about and write as Jussi has above when you're just
coding quietly on your own becomes a confused ball of mess as
soon as you're part of a Dojo team with 60 minutes to come up
with a solution. (Not saying that we couldn't have managed better;
merely that we didn't).

TJG

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First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 23:25 +0000
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 23:55 +0000
    Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 01:31 +0000
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-02-13 22:05 -0800
    Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 17:48 +0000
      Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 11:30 -0700
      Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-02-18 20:15 -0800
        Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-19 06:24 +0000
        Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 12:41 -0700
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) jkn <jkn_gg@nicorp.f9.co.uk> - 2013-02-14 13:14 -0800
    Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 22:13 +0000
      Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-14 22:09 -0500
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-14 21:05 -0800
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-02-15 11:22 +0000
    Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-02-15 16:17 +0000
      Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-02-15 17:52 +0000
        Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-02-19 21:10 +0000
      Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Matt Jones <matt.walker.jones@gmail.com> - 2013-02-15 12:03 -0600
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-02-15 11:36 +0000
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-02-15 13:11 +0000
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-02-15 15:36 +0000
    Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Jussi Piitulainen <jpiitula@ling.helsinki.fi> - 2013-02-15 18:48 +0200
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 02:49 +1100
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-02-15 17:37 +0000
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-15 13:41 -0500
  Re: First attempt at a Python prog (Chess) Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 14:39 +0000

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