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Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution

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On 1/22/2015 10:59 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> wrote:
>> This idea is so brilliant that it is already an option in mypy and is part
>> of the new type-hint proposal.  The separate type-hint files are called
>> 'stub files'.
>
> It's worth pointing out, too, that the idea isn't panaceaic - it's
> just another tool in the box. Any time you break related things into
> separate places, especially separate files, the tendency for them to
> get out of sync grows dramatically.

The same could be said of putting tests in a separate file.

 > Use of stub files for something
> that's only occasionally run (the type-checking linter) increases the
> potential time delay between the error and the fix.

Projects that view type-checks as tests that must pass will probably run 
them much more often.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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  Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2015-01-23 03:22 +0000
  Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-01-22 22:22 -0500
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        Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-01-23 13:59 -0800
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                Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-01-24 16:38 +1100
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              Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-01-24 15:09 +0100
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                Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-01-25 06:59 +1100
  Re: Python Sanity Proposal: Type Hinting Solution Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-01-23 00:03 -0500
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