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Date Wed, 15 May 2013 21:55:17 +0200
Subject Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers
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On 2013-05-14, Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/5/14 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>
>
>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 01:32:43 +0200, Citizen Kant wrote:
>>
>> >> An entity named Python must be somehow as a serpent. Don't forget that
>> >> I'm with the freeing up of my memory, now I'm not trying to follow the
>> >> path of what's told but acting like the monkey and pushing with my
>> >> finger against the skin of the snake.
>>
>> >Python is not named after the snake, but after Monty Python the British
>> >comedy troupe. And they picked their name because it sounded funny.
>>
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python>
>>
>> I'm sorry to hear that. Mostly because, as an answer, seems to example
>> very well the "taken because I've been told how things are" kind of
>> actions, which is exactly the opposite of the point I'm trying to state.

Grant Edwards said:

>>>> Firstly, watch your quoting, Steve D'Aprano didn't write that despite
>>>> your claim that he did.

>>>> Secondly, if a the person who named something tells you they named it
>>>> after A rather than B, what are you going to do other than "taken
>>>> because I've been told".  Are you claiming Guido lied about the source
>>>> of the name?

Of course not. I'm just claiming that the tree (what's been told) is
preventing him from seeing the forest (what it is). If what's been told was
(put, by the very God of Uranus) that "the name's origin resides on a
string, that string's made up with the entire text of The Bible's Genesis
chapter with the word Python inserted not exactly in the middle but upper
on that tree", now I would be claiming the very same thing. As a matter of
class, the word python names first a python snake than a Monty Python,
which is 50% inspired by that python word, word that's been being
considered the given name of a particular kind of snake since times in
which Terry Gilliam wasn't even alive. Of course one always may want to
perform random hacking and turn tables just because and treat the word
python as a variable's name, setting that python equals Monty Python in
order to checkmate any given conversation. In that case we'll have to cope
then with the long lasting problem of being forced to name every python
snake as a Monty Python snake, due to the caprice of a programmer .

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Re: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 01:32 +0200
  Re: Python for philosophers llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-13 20:33 -0700
    Fwd: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 11:11 +0200
    Fwd: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 12:36 +0200
  Re: Python for philosophers Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-14 05:29 +0000
    Fwd: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 10:34 +0200
      Re: Fwd: Python for philosophers DJC <djc@news.invalid> - 2013-05-14 21:27 +0100
      Re: Fwd: Python for philosophers Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-05-15 14:37 +0000
        Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 21:55 +0200
          Re: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 16:55 -0700
            Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 14:28 +0200
              Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 06:46 -0700
                Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-05-17 00:00 +1000
                Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers Citizen Kant <citizenkant@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 22:06 +0200
                Python for philosophers rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-05-19 10:46 -0700
              Re: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers llanitedave <llanitedave@veawb.coop> - 2013-05-16 22:42 -0700
        Re: Fwd: Fwd: Python for philosophers Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-05-16 01:12 +0100
    Re: Fwd: Python for philosophers Terry Jan Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-05-14 10:55 -0400

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