Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #93268

Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations

Path csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeder2.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder.ecngs.de!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <python-python-list@m.gmane.org>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.018
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'compiler': 0.05; 'compilers.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:skip:a 10': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '"python': 0.16; '(special': 0.16; 'benefit.': 0.16; 'compares': 0.16; 'crop': 0.16; 'from:addr:behnel.de': 0.16; 'from:addr:stefan_ml': 0.16; 'from:name:stefan behnel': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'implementing': 0.18; 'stefan': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; "i've": 0.24; 'seems': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'feature': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'actual': 0.29; 'certainly': 0.31; 'subject:time': 0.31; 'point': 0.33; 'michael': 0.33; "i'll": 0.34; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'project': 0.36; 'heard': 0.36; 'smaller': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'desired': 0.37; 'starting': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'enough': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'takes': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'received:de': 0.40; 'why': 0.40; 'further': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'impact': 0.61; 'provide': 0.61; 'here': 0.66; 'feeling': 0.66; 'one-time': 0.66; 'investment': 0.67; 'overall': 0.70; 'long-term': 0.72; 'special': 0.72; 'dialect': 0.84; 'ever-growing': 0.84; 'scratch,': 0.84; 'surface': 0.84; 'syndrome,': 0.84; 'undertaking': 0.84
X-Injected-Via-Gmane http://gmane.org/
To python-list@python.org
From Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de>
Subject Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations
Date Sun, 28 Jun 2015 09:31:31 +0200
References <mailman.664.1434846609.13271.python-list@python.org> <55898f07$0$3088$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <558D8CC0.6000409@gmail.com>
Mime-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding 7bit
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host ipservice-092-217-127-171.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de
User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0
In-Reply-To <558D8CC0.6000409@gmail.com>
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.20+
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.149.1435476715.3674.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 23
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1435476715 news.xs4all.nl 2887 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50717
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:93268

Show key headers only | View raw

Michael Torrie schrieb am 26.06.2015 um 19:32:
> I've never heard of pythran; I'll have to check it out and see how it
> compares to the ever-growing crop of Python dialect compilers.

My feeling is that Python seems such a simple language at the surface that
people who want to write a special purpose "Python subset" compiler prefer
starting from scratch, rather than contributing to the existing tools. It
takes a while until they understand the actual size of that undertaking and
that's the point where most of these projects just die.

I don't mean all of them. If you have enough time and/or money, you can
certainly get a project going that's relevant enough for a critical
(special purpose) user base to provide an actual benefit. But then, why
invest that time into something completely new that requires major
long-term maintenance efforts, when implementing the desired feature in an
existing compiler would be a one-time investment with a much smaller
overall impact on further maintenance costs?

Not Invented Here Syndrome, I guess...

Stefan

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-21 01:29 +0100
  Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-06-21 10:29 +0100
    Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-21 15:43 +0200
  Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations Laurent Pointal <laurent.pointal@free.fr> - 2015-06-23 18:53 +0200
    Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-06-26 11:32 -0600
    Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2015-06-28 09:31 +0200
      Re: HOPE: A Python just-in-time compiler for astrophysical computations wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2015-06-29 00:19 -0700

csiph-web