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On 02/05/2013 08:32 PM, Nobody wrote:
> A shell script is only the better option if (almost) the *only* thing the
> script needs to do is to execute commands.
> 
> The moment you start trying to "process" data, it's time to put up with
> the verbosity of subprocess.Popen() so that you can use a well-designed
> language for the rest of it.

Agreed.  And most of the time a script in bash is going to do something
like:

grep blah /from/file | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | uniq | sort

Python generators happen to be very efficient at recreating this sort of
thing entirely in python.  A great presentation that all system
programmers should read is found here:

http://www.dabeaz.com/generators/

Very cool stuff.  Grep is just a generator function.  cut is just a
generator function, and so on.  And it can be pretty darn fast too.

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Opinion on best practice... Anthony Correia <akcorreia@gmail.com> - 2013-02-04 20:14 -0800
  Re: Opinion on best practice... Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-02-04 23:04 -0700
  Re: Opinion on best practice... Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-02-05 02:56 -0500
    Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-05 13:23 +0000
  Re: Opinion on best practice... Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2013-02-05 08:56 +0100
    Re: Opinion on best practice... Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2013-02-05 11:35 +0100
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  Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-05 13:22 +0000
    Re: Opinion on best practice... Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2013-02-05 21:01 +0000
      Re: Opinion on best practice... Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-02-05 21:39 +0000
        Re: Opinion on best practice... Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-02-05 14:07 -0800
          Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-05 23:00 +0000
            Re: Opinion on best practice... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-06 10:35 +1100
              Re: Opinion on best practice... Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-06 12:55 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-02-05 18:14 -0800
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-06 17:16 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-02-05 23:32 -0800
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-06 15:18 +0000
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-06 12:37 -0500
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-07 10:46 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-07 16:28 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-07 06:50 +0000
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-07 18:49 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-08 09:49 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 17:54 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-08 12:41 -0500
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-07 13:54 -0500
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-08 09:58 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-08 13:29 -0500
                Re: Opinion on best practice... Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 11:28 +1100
                Re: Opinion on best practice... John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-02-08 19:10 -0800
            Re: Opinion on best practice... Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-06 00:33 -0500
              Re: Opinion on best practice... Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2013-02-06 15:30 +0200
        Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-05 22:59 +0000
          Re: Opinion on best practice... Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-05 17:05 -0700
            Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-06 15:04 +0000
          Re: Opinion on best practice... Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-02-06 14:20 +0000
            Re: Opinion on best practice... Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-06 15:11 +0000
      Re: Opinion on best practice... Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-02-06 03:32 +0000
        Re: Opinion on best practice... Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-02-05 22:07 -0700

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