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| Subject | Re: Passing a list into a list .append() method |
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"JBB" <jeanbigboute@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:loom.20140909T073428-713@post.gmane.org...
>I have a list with a fixed number of elements which I need to grow; ie. add
> rows of a fixed number of elements, some of which will be blank.
>
> e.g. [['a','b','c','d'], ['A','B','C','D'], ['', 'aa', 'inky', ''], ['',
> 'bb', 'binky', ''], ... ]
>
> This is a reduced representation of a larger list-of-lists problem that
> had
> me running in circles today.
>
> I think I figured out _how_ to get what I want but I am looking to
> understand why one approach works and another doesn't.
>
[...]
>
> Next, I tried passing it as list(tuple(blank_r)) which worked. Then, I
> finally settled on 2) where I dispensed with the tuple conversion.
>
I am sure that someone will give you a comprehensive answer, but here is a
quick clue which may be all you need.
>>> x = [1, 2, 3]
>>> id(x)
16973256
>>> y = x
>>> id(y)
16973256
>>> z = list(x)
>>> id(z)
17004864
Wrapping a list with 'list()' has the effect of making a copy of it.
This is from the docs (3.4.1) -
"""
Lists may be constructed in several ways:
- Using a pair of square brackets to denote the empty list: []
- Using square brackets, separating items with commas: [a], [a, b, c]
- Using a list comprehension: [x for x in iterable]
- Using the type constructor: list() or list(iterable)
The constructor builds a list whose items are the same and in the same order
as iterable's items.
iterable may be either a sequence, a container that supports iteration, or
an iterator object.
If iterable is already a list, a copy is made and returned, similar to
iterable[:]. [*]
For example, list('abc') returns ['a', 'b', 'c'] and list( (1, 2, 3) )
returns [1, 2, 3].
If no argument is given, the constructor creates a new empty list, [].
"""
I marked the relevant line with [*]
HTH
Frank Millman
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