Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.python > #76521

Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0

Path csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <python-python-list@m.gmane.org>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.024
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; 'enhancements': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'semantic': 0.09; 'strings.': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'backwards': 0.16; 'clockwork': 0.16; 'considers': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'tuples,': 0.16; 'elements': 0.16; 'fix': 0.17; 'packages.': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'subject:like': 0.24; 'versions': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'posts': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; "i'm": 0.30; 'comments': 0.31; 'agreed.': 0.31; 'breaking': 0.31; 'minor': 0.31; 'releases,': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'agree': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'throughout': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'convention': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'everybody': 0.60; 'numbers': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'series': 0.66; '8bit%:21': 0.69; 'expectations': 0.74; 'glad': 0.83; '"simply': 0.84; '3.10': 0.84; 'confusion.': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'several)': 0.84; 'termed': 0.84; 'edwards': 0.91; 'hong': 0.91; 'kong': 0.91
X-Injected-Via-Gmane http://gmane.org/
To python-list@python.org
From Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
Subject Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0
Date Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:27:48 +1000
References <mailman.13066.1408279206.18130.python-list@python.org> <lst3t9$30d$1@reader1.panix.com>
Mime-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding 8bit
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host jigong.madmonks.org
X-Public-Key-ID 0xAC128405
X-Public-Key-Fingerprint 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405
X-Public-Key-URL http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc
X-Post-From Ben Finney <bignose+hates-spam@benfinney.id.au>
User-Agent Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux)
Cancel-Lock sha1:KTRAr4wJ3ghwMjV1w23AKNhTlzA=
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.15
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.13119.1408400880.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 30
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1408400880 news.xs4all.nl 2911 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40362
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:76521

Show key headers only | View raw


Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:

> I agree with the comments that the appellation for "simply the next
> version after 3.9" should be 3.10 and not 4.0. Everybody I know
> considers SW versions numbers to be dot-separated tuples, not floating
> point numbers.

This consensus is sometimes termed “semantic versioning”, that is,
giving semantic meaning to the structural elements of a version string
<URL:http://semver.org/>.

I'm glad someone has taken the time to codify that sensible and useful
de-facto standard for version strings.

> I don't think one (or several) blog posts is going to change the
> perceptions and expectations that have been coditioned into us by
> decades of experience with x.0 versions of countless software
> packages. If it's just another in a a series of incremental "bug fix
> and minor enhancements without breaking backwards incompatibility"
> releases, you simply do not call it vers x.0.

Agreed. The convention is well established and rogues deviate from it at
the peril of unnecessary confusion.

-- 
 \     “Guaranteed to work throughout its useful life.” —packaging for |
  `\                                          clockwork toy, Hong Kong |
_o__)                                                                  |
Ben Finney

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-08-17 13:37 +0100
  Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-18 14:51 +0000
    Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 01:03 +1000
    Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 "ElChino" <elchino@cnn.cn> - 2014-08-18 19:00 +0200
      Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-08-18 10:15 -0700
      Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 09:46 +1000
    Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-08-18 10:14 -0700
      Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-18 21:09 +0000
        Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-08-18 14:45 -0700
        Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-19 10:25 +1000
          Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-19 14:27 +0000
            Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-19 09:37 -0500
              Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-19 14:51 +0000
              Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Johann Hibschman <jhibschman@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 10:56 -0400
            Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-20 03:44 +1000
    Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-08-19 08:27 +1000
      Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-19 11:00 +1000
    Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-19 10:05 +1000
      Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 10:30 +1000
    Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 10:47 +1000
  Re: Why Python 4.0 won't be like Python 3.0 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-19 12:04 -0700

csiph-web