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Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError.

From dieter <dieter@handshake.de>
Subject Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError.
Date 2013-05-04 07:56 +0200
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"Mr. Joe" <titanix88@gmail.com> writes:

> ...
> Then I came to know that 'property' does not play well
> with polymorphic code. :(

Can you elaborate?

I like "polymorphic code" and decorators (such a "property")
never met a problem with the two working nicely together.

> I resorted to some lambda hacks learned from
> stackoverflow.com to solve the problem. I know that it's the correct way
> for decorators to work, but still, it would be nice to have a language
> level solution.

There are two approaches: change the language or learn how the language works.

I am very happy that the Python developers try hard to retain backward
compatible and, consequently, are very reluctant towards language changes.
I would hate should the decorator behavior change in an incompatible
way.

On the other hand, decorators are very easy to understand: they are
just syntactic sugar:

     @<dec_expression>
     def f(...): ...

  is equivalent to:

     def f(...): ...
     f = <dec_expression>(f)

The "property" decorator uses an additional concept: "descriptor"s.
A "descriptor" allows you to customize attribute access.

These two concepts graped, the "property" decorator should no longer
cause surprises -- even in "polymorphic code".

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Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. "Mr. Joe" <titanix88@gmail.com> - 2013-05-03 05:34 +0600
  Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-03 00:20 +0000
    Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. "Mr. Joe" <titanix88@gmail.com> - 2013-05-03 13:52 +0600
      Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-05-04 06:29 +0000
        Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. "Mr. Joe" <titanix88@gmail.com> - 2013-05-14 21:09 +0600
        Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2013-05-15 08:15 +0200
        Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. "Mr. Joe" <titanix88@gmail.com> - 2013-05-15 22:38 +0600
    Re: Debugging difficulty in python with __getattr__, decorated properties and AttributeError. dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2013-05-04 07:56 +0200

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