Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac

From	Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac
Date	2016-06-18 18:50 -0600
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On 06/18/2016 06:12 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sunday, June 19, 2016 at 11:07:23 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie
> wrote:
>> 
>> On 06/17/2016 05:52 PM, Chris via Python-list wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions for a good open source text editor for the Mac
>>> out there?  For now, I am going to stick with vim.
>> 
>> Good choice.
> 
> The trouble with vim/vi/whatever, is that it doesn’t work like any
> other editor on Earth.

The fact that the OP is using vim would suggest this doesn't really
matter to him all that much.

> Pull up any old GUI-based editor you like, for example Windows
> (shudder) Notepad. If there are N characters in your file, then the
> insertion point can be placed at N + 1 positions: in-between two
> adjacent characters, or before the first character, or after the last
> character. And this makes sense: anything you type is inserted at the
> insertion point. All rational text editors (and word processors) work
> this way.

Indeed, so does vi/vim.  Why do you think otherwise?

> But not vi/vim. It only lets you place your cursor *on* a character,
> not *in-between* characters. That’s why you need two separate
> insertion commands, insert-before and insert-after. And one of those
> has the interesting side effect where, if you exit insertion mode
> without inserting anything, it doesn’t put you back in the same
> position as before. Why?
> 
> As to why you need insertion commands at all, that’s another
> thing...

Having used vim for years and also normal editors including word
processors, I have no idea what you're talking about by how insert
works.  It works the exactly the same.  I put my cursor under a letter,
hit insert, and I am inserting text before that letter, just like any
other text editor.

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best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Chris <cspears2002@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-17 16:52 -0700
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 17:19 -0700
    Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2016-06-17 17:36 -0700
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2016-06-20 01:39 -0700
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2016-06-18 01:58 +0100
    Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 18:50 -0700
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-18 12:05 +1000
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-18 11:55 +1000
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 20:59 -0500
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac support@ecourierz.com - 2016-06-17 22:18 -0700
    Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-18 00:04 -0700
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-06-18 05:09 -0400
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-06-18 12:40 +0300
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:08 -0700
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-18 07:12 -0700
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-06-18 13:22 +0000
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-18 07:08 -0700
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-06-18 16:08 -0400
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 09:02 -0700
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-06-20 10:38 +1200
  best text editor for programming Python on a Mac MrJean1 <MrJean1@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 08:52 -0700
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:07 -0600
    Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 17:12 -0700
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:26 -0400
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 11:41 +0100
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-06-19 15:57 +0300
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 07:19 -0600
            Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 09:20 -0700
              Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-06-19 20:06 +0200
                Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 11:13 -0700
                Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 13:04 -0600
              Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:58 -0600
                Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-20 11:32 +1000
                ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 19:07 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-20 13:29 +1000
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Phil Boutros <philb@philb.ca> - 2016-06-20 04:30 +0000
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 22:03 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-20 02:04 -0400
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 07:00 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 00:57 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-20 20:24 +1000
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 14:23 +0000
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-06-21 01:00 +1000
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 08:12 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 21:36 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 21:41 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 00:40 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-06-21 11:35 +0300
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 03:46 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-06-21 16:08 +0300
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 06:56 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:11 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 19:01 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 19:07 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 07:29 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-06-21 21:56 +0300
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-06-21 14:42 -0500
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-06-21 23:08 +0300
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 00:55 -0700
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-06-22 06:09 -0500
                Re: ASCII or Unicode? (was best text editor for programming Python on a Mac) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-06-21 10:08 -0500
                Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-06-19 21:41 -0500
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Quivis <quivis@domain.invalid> - 2016-06-19 21:21 +0000
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 16:15 -0600
            Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-06-20 09:37 +0200
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 18:50 -0600
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 19:01 -0600
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 20:09 -0600
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 19:51 -0700
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 22:54 -0600
            Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 22:57 -0700
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 22:56 -0600
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-06-19 06:36 -0500
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-06-19 09:13 +0200
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:34 -0700
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 00:47 -0700
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-06-19 09:57 +0200
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 07:23 -0600
            Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-06-20 08:30 +0000
      Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-06-20 10:44 +1200
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 00:59 -0700
        Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-06-20 09:26 -0400
          Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-06-20 15:36 +0200
            Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 06:48 -0700
              Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-06-20 16:03 +0200
  best text editor for programming Python on a Mac drednot57 <dpresley@midiowa.net> - 2016-06-18 19:48 -0700
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac jennifer.greeen@gmail.com - 2016-07-06 03:25 -0700
  Re: best text editor for programming Python on a Mac jennifer.greeen@gmail.com - 2016-07-06 03:27 -0700

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