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Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators

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Date Fri, 11 Jul 2014 23:11:37 -0700
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On 07/11/2014 10:07 PM, Alan Bawden wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:
>
>> But perhaps we only care about changes in value, not type. NAN or no NAN,
>> list equality works fine:
>>
>> py> data = [1.0, 2.0, float('nan'), 4.0]
>> py> old = data[:]
>> py> old == data  # No changes made yet, should return True
>> True
>
> You lost me right here.  If list equality is determined by comparing
> lists element-by-element, and the second element of old is _not_ equal
> to the second element of data, then why should old and data be equal?
>
> In fact, I find myself puzzled about exactly how list equality is
> actually defined.  Consider:
>
>    >>> a = float('nan')
>    >>> x = [1, a, 9]
>    >>> y = [1, a, 9.0]
>    >>> x == y
>    True
>
> So is there some equality predicate where corresponding elements of x
> and y are equal?
>
>    >>> map(operator.eq, x, y)
>    [True, False, True]
>
> It's not "==".
>
>    >>> map(operator.is_, x, y)
>    [True, True, False]
>
> And it's not "is".

class list:
     def __eq__(self, other):
         if len(self) != len(other):
             return False
         for this, that in zip(self, other):
              if this is that or this == that:
                  continue
              break
         else:
             return True
         return False

--
~Ethan~

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Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-09 07:00 +0000
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 17:21 +1000
    Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-09 09:17 +0000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 09:20 -0700
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 11:50 -0600
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2014-07-10 09:16 +1000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-07-12 13:54 +0200
        Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-12 16:35 +0000
          Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 02:54 +1000
            Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-12 16:39 -0400
          Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-07-12 20:14 +0200
            Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 09:01 +1000
              Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-12 19:06 -0400
                Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-13 09:15 +1000
            Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-13 04:48 +0000
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2014-07-09 18:17 +1000
    Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-09 09:02 +0000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 19:23 +1000
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 05:01 -0700
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-09 08:27 -0400
    Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-09 12:48 +0000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-07-09 13:05 -0500
        Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-10 01:10 +0000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 12:31 -0600
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-09 16:47 -0400
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-07-09 05:43 -0700
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-07-09 16:27 +0100
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Alex Burke <alexjeffburke@gmail.com> - 2014-07-10 18:33 +0200
  Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-12 03:30 +0000
    Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Alan Bawden <alan@scooby-doo.csail.mit.edu> - 2014-07-12 01:07 -0400
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-07-12 08:05 +0200
        Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Torsten Bronger <bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de> - 2014-07-12 08:14 +0200
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 16:06 +1000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-07-11 23:11 -0700
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 16:39 +1000
        Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-12 10:06 +0300
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-07-11 23:53 -0700
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-12 17:25 +1000
      Re: Proposal: === and !=== operators Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-12 08:33 +0000

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