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Re: Python 3 is killing Python

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From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: Python 3 is killing Python
Date Wed, 28 May 2014 20:41:53 -0400
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On 5/28/2014 3:23 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
> Somthing I came across in my travels through the ether:
>
> https://medium.com/@deliciousrobots/5d2ad703365d/

Claim: "Python 3 languishes in disuse."

Fact: in 2013, there were around 14 million downloads of windows 
installers for each of 2.7.x and 3.3.x. 3.3 is over twice as popular as 
3.2 (to be expected).
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/147822
In a year, we will see about 3.4.

Regardless of comparisons with 2.7, 3.3 is a success in absolute numbers.

Claim: Another great strength of Python 2 was that programs written in 
it would almost always run on the next version of Python without much 
alteration.

True. Changes and removals of deprecated features (like old style 
classes) were put off until 3.0 (at the request of some of the noiser 
users). Some improvements were relegated to future imports. By 2.7, the 
load of accumulated 'technological debt' was as much as the developers 
wanted to deal with, over and over.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-28 20:41 -0400
  Re: Python 3 is killing Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-29 04:03 +0000
    Re: Python 3 is killing Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-29 02:57 -0400
  Re: Python 3 is killing Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-14 15:31 -0700

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