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Re: Immutability and Python

From Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Immutability and Python
Date 2012-11-08 08:38 +0100
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Am 29.10.2012 16:20 schrieb andrea crotti:

> Now on one hand I would love to use only immutable data in my code, but
> on the other hand I wonder if it makes so much sense in Python.

You can have both. Many mutable types distinguish between them with 
their operators.

To pick up your example,


class NumWrapper(object):
     def __init__(self, number):
         self.number = number
     def __iadd__(self, x):
         self.number += x
         return self
     def __add__(self, x):
         return NumWrapper(self.number + x)

So with

     number += 1

you keep the same object and modify it, while with

     number = number + 1

or

     new_number = number + 1

you create a new object.


> But more importantly normally classes are way more complicated than my
> stupid example, so recreating a new object with the modified state might
> be quite complex.
>
> Any comments about this? What do you prefer and why?

That's why I generally prefer mutable objects, but it can depend.


Thomas

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Immutability and Python andrea crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> - 2012-10-29 15:20 +0000
  Re: Immutability and Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-29 08:55 -0700
    Re: Immutability and Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-30 03:08 +1100
    Re: Immutability and Python andrea crotti <andrea.crotti.0@gmail.com> - 2012-10-29 16:33 +0000
  Re: Immutability and Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-29 23:02 +0000
  Re: Immutability and Python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-10-30 09:22 -0700
    Re: Immutability and Python Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com> - 2012-10-30 16:45 -0400
      Re: Immutability and Python rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-10-30 20:21 -0700
  Re: Immutability and Python Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-11-08 08:38 +0100

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