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Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic

From Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic
Date 2013-02-20 16:59 -0600
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On 02/20/2013 04:49 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 02/20/2013 12:38 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks.  I was specifically curious about your use of dynamic programming.
>>> What about this algorithm makes it particularly an example of this?  Is
>>> it your use of memoization or something other than this?
>>
>> In retrospect, I was using the term overly broadly, as the algorithm
>> does not really use dynamic programming.  I should have written
>> "memoization" instead.
>>
>
> That's why I asked.  Dynamic Programming itself is a sort of wide
> term and I was curious which version of it you found useful.
>
> Thanks for the discussion.
>

One other point of interest:  The formal notion of Dynamic Program
is to decompose problems into potentially overlapping subproblems
and only solve each subproblem once, and reapply the results as
needed.  Hence, your use of memoization is indeed an example of
Dynamic Programming.

Notwithstanding the formal ideas of a Dynamic Program, my interest in this
context really had more to do with the word "dynamic".  Languages
like Python are "dynamic" in the sense that a running program can
actually generate new code as it runs.  This makes it possible to
write adaptive programs that morph as they run, typically in response
to their inputs and state.***  I was thinking that perhaps
you'd done something in this sense of the word in solving the OPs
problem.  


*** To be sure, you can do this in assembler too, it's just much
more convenient in dynamic languages like Python.

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Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic John Immarino <johimm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 11:13 -0800
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 08:55 +1100
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 14:54 -0700
    Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-02-19 08:46 -0600
      Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 11:31 -0700
        Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-02-20 08:21 -0600
          Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-20 11:38 -0700
            Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-02-20 16:49 -0600
              Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-02-20 16:59 -0600
      Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 22:28 +0200
      Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-20 08:39 +1100
        Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-02-20 18:32 +1300
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 08:56 +1100
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 08:58 +1100
    Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic John Immarino <johimm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:39 -0800
      Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 14:01 +1100
        Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Nick Mellor <thebalancepro@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 20:17 -0800
        Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Nick Mellor <thebalancepro@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 20:17 -0800
    Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic John Immarino <johimm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:39 -0800
      Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-02-20 17:06 +0000
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 09:01 +1100
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 15:15 -0700
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Alexander Blinne <news@blinne.net> - 2013-02-19 01:11 +0100
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-18 19:36 -0500
    Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic John Immarino <johimm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:47 -0800
    Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic John Immarino <johimm@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:47 -0800
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-02-18 19:50 -0500
    Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2013-02-19 12:42 +0100
      Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Alexander Blinne <news@blinne.net> - 2013-02-20 01:23 +0100
        Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 18:04 -0700
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-02-19 00:28 -0500
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2013-02-19 12:52 +0200
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-02-19 13:13 +0200
  Re: Python 3.3 vs. MSDOS Basic Olive <diolu.remove_this_part@bigfoot.com> - 2013-02-19 15:02 +0100

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