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Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods (was: turtle ??)

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Date 2016-03-09 23:54 -0800
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Subject Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods (was: turtle ??)
From Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>

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On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 12:59:10 PM UTC+5:30, Ben Finney wrote:
> Marko Rauhamaa  writes:
> 
> > BTW, typing any useful Unicode character is a major unsolved problem.
> 
> You typed a good number of Unicode characters in that sentence alone.
> ASCII is a simple subset of Unicode.
> 
> I suppose you meant to refer to typing some character not mapped to a
> single keystroke on a US-English keyboard kayout.
> 
> You're right, that is a major problem.
> 
> As for how solved it is, that depends on what you're hoping for as a
> solution.
> 
> The conventional solution, which I find to be quite useful for typing
> characters from a great many different writing systems, is an
> <URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_method> customised to
> particular writing systems.
> 
> My primary input method is one which lets me type typical English text
> and also easily input a broad range of useful characters with a few
> mnenonic two- or three-key sequences.
> 
> > I have created this text file that contains a lot of unicode
> > characters with their code points. Every once in a while I have to
> > open the file and copy and paste a character to, say, a Usenet
> > posting. Cumbersome but necessary.
> 
> Hopefully your operating system has a good input method system, with
> many input methods available to choose from. May you find a decent
> default there.

I believe that these discussions would be useful (and the current state
of input methods better-ed if we distinguish different levels of input-methods.

Basically ranging from low-setup, hi-perchar cost to hi-setup low-perchar cost

At the one extreme we have
use google, hunt around, cut-paste

At the other use a special hardware keyboard
[I believe Steven had sometime showed something like this
https://plus.google.com/102786751626732213960/posts/2uJzHw1JHeN?pid=5802841322291932386&oid=102786751626732213960
]

In between these two extremes we have many possibilities
- ibus/gchar etc
- compose key
- alternate keyboard layouts

Using all these levels judiciously seems to me a good idea...

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turtle ?? Ömer sarı <sari.omer.1989@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 23:39 -0800
  Re: turtle ?? Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2016-03-09 10:06 +0100
    Re: turtle ?? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-09 22:55 +1100
      Re: turtle ?? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 09:24 -0500
      Re: turtle ?? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2016-03-09 18:14 +0000
        Re: turtle ?? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-10 13:45 +1100
          Re: turtle ?? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 14:47 +1100
            Re: turtle ?? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-10 08:14 +0200
              Re: turtle ?? Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-03-10 08:46 +0200
              Text input with keyboard, via input methods (was: turtle ??) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-10 18:28 +1100
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods (was: turtle ??) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 23:54 -0800
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-10 20:51 -0800
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 03:46 -0800
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-10 12:51 +0200
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 03:59 -0800
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Jerry Hill <malaclypse2@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 09:38 -0500
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-10 17:13 +0200
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 07:19 +1100
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-03-10 21:48 +0000
                Re: Text input with keyboard, via input methods Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-11 00:47 +0200
              Re: turtle ?? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 18:39 +1100
  Re: turtle ?? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-03-09 10:30 -0500

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