Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?!

From	Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++, comp.lang.python, comp.mobile.android, comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject	Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?!
Date	2015-12-04 11:22 +0800
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On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 09:16:32 +0000 (UTC), Juha Nieminen
<nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:

>In comp.lang.c++ Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:57:44 +0000 (UTC), Juha Nieminen
>> <nospam@thanks.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>In comp.lang.c++ Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>> You download things FROM a computer, you upload them TO a computer.
>>>
>>>It's a matter of perspective. If a hacker breaks into your computer and
>>>starts a download from somewhere else into your computer, isn't the hacker
>>>"downloading" things to your computer?
>> 
>> Does it matter? As far as the law is concerned, it is possession of
>> child porn that's illegal. How it got there is irrelevant.
>
>Most judiciary systems are not robots following a narrow set of instructions.
>If they determine that it wasn't your fault, they will not punish the
>innocent.
>
>Besides, how would they even know what's in your computer?

If you do a Google search for <child porn arrested> you will find
literally thousands of cases where raids have taken place and people
have been found with this material on their computers.

In many of these cases the authorities have traced the IP addresses of
people whose computers have made connections to known sites that host
child porn. It's no use trying to claim that a bot you weren't aware
of downloaded it without your knowledge. If you could get off the hook
that easily everybody who was interested in the stuff would
deliberately install such a bot and use that as an excuse.

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Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-01 20:49 +0200
  Re: "Downloading" Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2015-12-01 19:05 +0000
    Re: "Downloading" Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-02 10:46 +1100
      Re: "Downloading" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 10:56 +1100
  Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-01 11:11 -0800
  Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-01 14:19 -0600
  Re: "Downloading" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 10:05 +1100
    Re: "Downloading" Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-02 15:15 +0000
      Re: "Downloading" Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-12-02 18:37 +0200
        Re: "Downloading" Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-12-02 12:10 -0800
  Re: "Downloading" Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-01 17:28 -0600
  Re: "Downloading" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 10:32 +1100
  Re: "Downloading" Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2015-12-01 23:37 +0000
  Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-02 01:22 +0100
  Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2015-12-02 08:57 +0000
    Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-02 09:42 +0000
      Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-02 15:20 +0000
        Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-03 06:21 +0200
          Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-12-03 07:43 +0200
    Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-12-02 04:09 -0600
      Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-02 15:20 +0000
    Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-02 08:36 -0800
      Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-12-02 17:53 +0100
      Re: Is <someone> secretly downloading <some stuff> to your computer ?! Rob Hills <rhills@medimorphosis.com.au> - 2015-12-03 01:00 +0800
      Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 11:32 -0600
        Re: stuff and nonsense Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-12-02 22:51 +0000
          Re: stuff and nonsense Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-12-03 01:46 +0100
            Re: stuff and nonsense Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 01:28 +0000
          Re: stuff and nonsense Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-03 07:37 -0500
    Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-12-03 14:24 +0800
      Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-03 10:00 +0100
        Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-03 20:11 +1100
      Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid> - 2015-12-03 09:16 +0000
        Re: Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2015-12-04 11:22 +0800

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