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Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

From Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces
Date 2014-07-04 18:35 +1200
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Disadvantages of tabs:
> - Many standard Unix/Linux/POSIX tools have a hard time dealing with tabs.
> 
> I call such tools *broken*,

They're not broken, they're just using a different set of
conventions. Unix traditionally uses tab characters as a
form of space compression. The meaning of a tab is fixed,
and configurable indentation is done by inserting a suitable
combination of tabs and spaces.

As long as *all* your tools follow that convention, everything
is fine. The problems arise when you mix in tools that use
different conventions.

The truly broken tools IMO are things like mail handlers that
shrink away in terror when they see a tab and remove it
altogether. There's no excuse for that, as far as I can see.

-- 
Greg

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PEP8 and 4 spaces Tobiah <tshepard@rcsreg.com> - 2014-07-03 10:31 -0700
  Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-03 13:46 -0400
  Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-03 19:02 +0000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-07-03 14:40 -0500
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-07-03 14:23 -0700
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-07-03 16:15 -0700
          Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-04 14:28 +0000
            Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-04 17:54 +0300
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 00:58 +1000
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-04 16:00 +0100
                Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-04 18:12 +0300
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Simon Ward <simon+python@bleah.co.uk> - 2014-07-04 19:52 +0100
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 16:03 -0600
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-05 23:50 +0100
            Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-04 15:57 +0100
            Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2014-07-04 08:57 -0700
            Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-04 17:06 +0100
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Maciej Dziardziel <fiedzia@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 09:19 -0700
                Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-04 16:56 +0000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2014-07-03 14:28 -0700
  Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-04 01:02 +0000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 11:19 +1000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-07-04 18:35 +1200
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-04 01:47 -0700
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-04 12:21 +0300
          Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-04 03:10 -0700
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-04 09:47 -0400
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina.rakotomandimby@rktmb.org> - 2014-07-04 16:59 +0300
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-04 16:12 +0100
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces George Silva <georger.silva@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 12:14 -0300
          Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-04 12:31 -0400
            Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces George Silva <georger.silva@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 13:37 -0300
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-07-05 11:14 +1200
  Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 19:00 -0700
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 19:47 -0700
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 13:03 +1000
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-07-05 20:57 +1200
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2014-07-05 09:48 +0000
      OT: Flashlights [was Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-05 10:15 +0000
        Re: OT: Flashlights [was Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces] Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-06 08:41 -0700
          Re: OT: Flashlights [was Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-07 08:25 +1000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 12:57 -0600
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-07-05 15:07 -0400
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2014-07-05 21:07 +0100
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-06 09:27 +1000
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-07-06 01:18 +0000
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-06 11:28 +1000

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