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Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine

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El sábado, 1 de agosto de 2015, 18:45:17 (UTC+2), Mark Lawrence  escribió:
> On 01/08/2015 17:07, Javier wrote:
> >
> > Asyncio is a crazy headache! I realized that I can't use asyncio tcp servers with pickle! Asyncio is good as a concept but bad in real life.
> >
> > I think python's non blocking I/O is far from being something useful for developers till non-async code can invoke async code transparently. Duplicating all code/libs when you realize that something not fits asyncio is not a solution and even less a pythonic solution.
> >
> 
> I'll keep my eyes open for your solution on pypi as clearly you know 
> better than the Python core developers.  Fully documented and tested of 
> course.
> 
> -- 
> My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
> what you can do for our language.
> 
> Mark Lawrence

Don't be rascal, friend. Nobody thinks that self is better than core developers, and personaly I don't think I am better than anybody, but, I have my own opinion.
The fact that the core team is better at python coding and compilers than me does not mean that her implementation fits my needs/opinion.

I dont like the current event loop implementation (plus yield from): 
- It forces me to use beta libraries for doing something that another production ready library already does, 
- I can't use one of the most awesome python features: yielding between generators and coroutines
- As you said, I'm not as smart as they are but I thought python is for everybody, not only for them. Should I ask them how can I use pickle with streamreader? I think it would be better if it would become trivial.


I read PEPs. I don't imagine a good users community if all of us would have to read the pythons source code to understand how to use new features or rewrite a new implementation proposal to be allowed to tell our opinion, as you claims, 

I would like that all the code would run on event loop, but till then I just believe that event loop should be a native feature, not a python hack. I believe that we should be able to call asyncio functions without doing "yield from" through all the stack. I believe that It's possible an implementation that allows generators for processing data streams and that allows to mix classic code with loop code.

And finally I claim a place for not super-level pythoners that want to talk about features improvement without being asked for a reference implementation, each of us have our own role.

:)

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Send data to asyncio coroutine jcarmena@gmail.com - 2015-07-21 04:31 -0700
  Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-07-21 07:35 -0600
    Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 14:17 -0700
      Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:41 -0700
        Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:20 -0800
      Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 15:06 -0800
        Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-28 19:52 -0700
        Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-07-29 07:24 -0700
  Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 09:07 -0700
    Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-01 17:41 +0100
      Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 11:22 -0700
        Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-08-01 21:38 +0300
          Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-01 19:45 +0100
            Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 12:07 -0700
              Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-08-01 22:14 +0300
                Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 17:50 -0700
              Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-01 20:33 +0100
              Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-08-02 09:28 +1000
            Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-08-01 22:09 +0300
              Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-01 20:29 +0100
    Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-08-01 20:18 +0300
      Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Javier <jcarmena@gmail.com> - 2015-08-01 10:50 -0700
        Re: Send data to asyncio coroutine Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-08-01 21:33 +0300

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