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Re: is there any principle when writing python function

From Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: is there any principle when writing python function
Date 2011-08-29 14:52 +0000
Organization Norwich University
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On 2011-08-26, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Tobiah <tobiah@teranews.com>
> wrote:
>> While I understand and agree with that basic tenet, I think
>> that the capitalized 'ONLY' is too strong. ?I do split out
>> code into function for readability, even when the function
>> will only be called from the place from which I split it out.
>
> This can be good and can be bad. It's good when it aids
> readability; it's bad when you need to pass practically the
> entire locals() as function arguments and/or return values.

Even when lots of context is needed, defining the context with
function calls is a big improvement over directly using names in
a module's global namespace.

Sometimes repeatedly reused context suggests that creating new
classes of objects might be a good idea.

> I would split the function only when both halves (caller and
> callee) can be given short and useful names - if you can't
> explain what a block of code does in a few words, it's probably
> a poor choice for splitting out into a function.

I agree, except for the implied unconditional preference for
short names. I believe the length of a name should usually be
proportional to the scope of the object it represents.

In my house, I'm dad. In my chorus, I'm Neil. In town I'm Neil
Cerutti, and in the global scope I have to use a meaningless
unique identifier. Hopefully no Python namespace ever gets that
big.

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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is there any principle when writing python function smith jack <thinke365@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 19:59 +0800
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2011-08-23 14:20 +0200
    Re: is there any principle when writing python function Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-23 08:56 -0400
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function Mel <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2011-08-23 08:53 -0400
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-23 08:55 -0400
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2011-08-23 15:00 +0200
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-24 01:22 +1000
    Re: is there any principle when writing python function Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-08-23 14:29 -0400
      Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 13:22 -0700
      Re: is there any principle when writing python function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-24 11:44 +1000
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-23 16:53 +0000
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 10:02 -0700
    Re: is there any principle when writing python function alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 20:05 -0700
    Re: is there any principle when writing python function alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2011-08-23 20:08 -0700
      Re: is there any principle when writing python function Red John <redjohn367@gmail.com> - 2011-08-24 16:29 -0700
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function ting@thsu.org - 2011-08-25 22:20 -0700
    Re: is there any principle when writing python function Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-26 07:15 -0400
      Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-26 08:20 -0700
        Re: is there any principle when writing python function John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-08-26 15:40 +0000
          Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-26 11:05 -0700
            Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-27 07:45 +1000
              Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-26 15:26 -0700
              Re: is there any principle when writing python function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-27 11:26 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-27 11:37 +1000
              Re: is there any principle when writing python function Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-27 12:41 -0400
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-28 02:57 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2011-08-27 10:27 -0700
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-08-28 07:57 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2011-08-27 15:21 -0700
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-27 16:01 -0700
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-27 19:09 -0400
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Stephen Hansen <me+list/python@ixokai.io> - 2011-08-27 16:27 -0700
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-28 03:31 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-28 06:27 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-28 06:38 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-08-27 17:09 -0400
        Re: is there any principle when writing python function Tobiah <tobiah@teranews.com> - 2011-08-26 08:48 -0700
          Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-27 02:10 +1000
            Re: is there any principle when writing python function Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-08-29 14:52 +0000
              Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-30 04:20 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-08-29 18:40 +0000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-08-30 05:02 +1000
                For some value of “sing” (was: is there any principle when writing python function) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-08-30 08:17 +1000
                Re: is there any principle when writing python function Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-08-29 23:20 -0700
          Re: is there any principle when writing python function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-27 04:16 +1000
            Re: is there any principle when writing python function rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-08-26 15:37 -0700
  Re: is there any principle when writing python function harrismh777 <harmar@member.fsf.org> - 2011-08-27 23:51 -0500

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