Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?

From	Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed?
Date	2015-07-20 01:23 +0200
Organization	Decebal Computing
Message-ID	<87zj2rwx3g.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> (permalink)
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On Monday 20 Jul 2015 00:51 CEST, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 19/07/2015 23:10, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>> On Sunday 19 Jul 2015 22:28 CEST, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/07/2015 21:05, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>>>> On Sunday 19 Jul 2015 21:01 CEST, Ian Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday 19 Jul 2015 15:42 CEST, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19/07/2015 03:13, Terry Reedy wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/18/2015 7:50 PM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
>>>>>>>>> to 2.7, surely bug fixes are also allowed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, allowed. But should they be made, and if so, by
>>>>>>>> who?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The people who want the fixes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Babies want clean diapers. So babies have to change diapers
>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>
>>>>> Poor analogy. Babies need others to change their diapers for
>>>>> them because they're not capable of doing it for themselves.
>>>>
>>>> That is why I think it is good analogy. I think that most of the
>>>> users of 2.7 who would be delighted with fixes would have no idea
>>>> how to get those fixes into 2.7.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They could try reading the development guide to start with, or is
>>> that also too much to ask?
>>
>> My impression is that you and some other people are in an ivory
>> tower and find it very cosy.
>>
>> It reminds me about the man on dry land who responded to the person
>> who fell in water and shouted
>> “Help, I cannot swim!”
>> with
>> “Why are you screaming?
>> I cannot swim also.
>> Do you hear me yelling about it?"
>>
>
> You are now suggesting that people shouldn't even bother reading the
> develoment guide, just great. Do they have to do anything themselves
> to get patches through? Presumably the core devs give up their paid
> work, holidays, families, other hobbies and the like, just so some
> bunch of lazy, bone idle gits can get what they want, for nothing,
> when it suits them? It appears that babies aren't the only people
> who need their nappies changing around here.

No use replying anymore. You make a caricature of what I am saying and
put words in my mouth I never said. Just stay in your cosy ivory
tower. But please do not pretend that you are open for discussion,
because you are not.

-- 
Cecil Westerhof
Senior Software Engineer
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof

Thread

Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-19 14:42 +0100
  Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-07-19 18:10 +0200
    Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-19 17:38 +0100
      Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-07-19 19:14 +0200
        Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-19 18:54 +0100
          Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 11:28 -0700
            Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? breamoreboy@gmail.com - 2015-07-19 11:44 -0700
              Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 12:13 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? breamoreboy@gmail.com - 2015-07-19 13:21 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-20 12:36 +1000
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-07-19 21:07 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-22 00:40 +0100
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2015-07-20 08:46 +0200
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 22:00 -0700
        Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2015-07-20 08:36 +0200
    Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 13:01 -0600
      Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 12:28 -0700
        Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? breamoreboy@gmail.com - 2015-07-19 13:36 -0700
          Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 14:27 -0700
            Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? breamoreboy@gmail.com - 2015-07-19 17:45 -0700
              Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 18:25 -0700
      Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-07-19 22:05 +0200
        Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-19 21:28 +0100
          Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-07-20 00:10 +0200
            Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-19 23:51 +0100
              Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-07-20 01:23 +0200
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-07-20 01:27 +0100
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 17:49 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? breamoreboy@gmail.com - 2015-07-19 18:26 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 18:35 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-20 13:12 +1000
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 21:30 -0600
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-20 15:59 +1000
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 20:58 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-21 18:33 +1000
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 19:58 -0700
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 23:33 -0600
                Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-07-20 00:39 -0600
              Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-20 12:49 +1000
      Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-07-20 12:32 +1000
    Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2015-07-20 08:06 +0200
    Re: Should non-security 2.7 bugs be fixed? dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2015-07-20 08:10 +0200

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