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Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team

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Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>:

> On Tuesday 17 May 2016 16:18, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>
>> Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info>:
>>> Personally, I think that advertising a job position without saying who
>>> you are, what you do, and offering at least an indicative salary
>>> range, are *astonishingly* rude
>> I don't believe they care.
>> 
>>> (to say nothing of counter-productive).
>> Maybe, maybe not.
>> 
>> I bet the zebras on the savannah consider the lions astonishingly rude
>> and their strategy counter-productive. The savannah would be a nicer
>> place if the lions ate grass like everybody else.
>
> A strange analogy. Employers and potential employees are not really in a 
> predator/prey relationship.

The unsavory recruiters are the predators.

> The problem is that recruiter's best interests do not align neatly
> with either potential employees *or* employers. They're like real
> estate agents. The incentives for a recruiter is to find a barely
> acceptable hire as quickly as possible for the least amount of effort
> possible. There's no point in doing extra work to find the best new
> hire, if the employer is willing to take a so- so hire. Since the
> employer is only seeing potentials that the recruiter passes on, the
> employer has no way of telling what the pool of would-be employees is
> really like.

Correct. Also, they may genuinely not care about ethics of any sort.

> I'm not saying that all recruiters are unscrupulous or are intentionally 
> deceiving the other parties,

Nor am I.

> but the incentives are such that:

Different recruiters follow different strategies, methods and practices.
Psychopathy stays in our gene pool over generations because it sometimes
*is* a winning strategy.


Marko

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  Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 09:07 +1000
    Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-17 12:37 +1000
      Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 12:56 +1000
        Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-17 15:20 +1000
          Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 15:29 +1000
          Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-05-17 09:18 +0300
            Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-17 17:39 +1000
              Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-05-17 17:42 +1000
              Re: Wanted Python programmer to join team Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-05-17 11:27 +0300
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