Re: Asymmetry in globals getitem/setitem

From	Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__
Date	2014-06-13 15:32 +0300
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Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com>:

> And people should decide what they really want - fast language which
> can stand against the competition, or language with dynamicity and
> reflection capabilities beyond any practical need. I make first choice
> any time.

I'm in the latter camp, absolutely, except that I have a lot of
practical needs for much of that dynamism.

Admittedly, the topic of this thread is a bit funky. I'm wondering what
the application is: a profiler? a debugger? malware? self-awareness?

> And then it makes sense to just accept that any function can be JIT
> (or AOT) compiled, and there's nothing to fish inside of it (but for
> the raw machine code of unknown architecture).

I've been talking about the need for effective JIT so we can get rid of
Java et co. I wouldn't dream of taking away any of Python's dynamism,
though. In particular, type annotations etc are a big no in my book.


Marko

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Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ Robert Lehmann <mail@robertlehmann.de> - 2014-06-12 20:18 +0200
  Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2014-06-13 12:38 +1200
    Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-13 09:07 +0300
      Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ robert@robertlehmann.de - 2014-06-13 03:13 -0700
        Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2014-06-13 12:53 +0200
        Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> - 2014-06-13 14:28 +0300
          Re: Asymmetry in globals __getitem__/__setitem__ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-13 15:32 +0300

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