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Re: Benefits of asyncio

From Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Benefits of asyncio
Date 2014-06-03 16:05 +0300
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Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:

> I don't see how Marko's assertion that event-driven asynchronous
> programming is a breath of fresh air compared with multithreading. The
> only way multithreading can possibly be more complicated is that
> preemption can occur anywhere - and that's exactly one of the big
> flaws in async work, if you don't do your job properly.

Say you have a thread blocking on socket.accept(). Another thread
receives the management command to shut the server down. How do you tell
the socket.accept() thread to abort and exit?

The classic hack is close the socket, which causes the blocking thread
to raise an exception.

The blocking thread might be also stuck in socket.recv(). Closing the
socket from the outside is dangerous now because of race conditions. So
you will have to carefully use add locking to block an unwanted closing
of the connection.

But what do you do if the blocking thread is stuck in the middle of a
black box API that doesn't expose a file you could close?

So you hope all blocking APIs have a timeout parameter. You then replace
all blocking calls with polling loops. You make the timeout value long
enough not to burden the CPU too much and short enough not to annoy the
human operator too much.

Well, ok,

   os.kill(os.getpid(), signal.SIGKILL)

is always an option.


Marko

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Benefits of asyncio Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 10:40 -0700
  Re: Benefits of asyncio Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 12:37 -0600
  Re: Benefits of asyncio Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-02 16:07 -0400
    Re: Benefits of asyncio Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-02 16:19 -0400
    Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-02 23:28 +0300
      Re: Benefits of asyncio Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-02 13:45 -0700
        Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 07:49 +1000
        Re: Benefits of asyncio Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-06-02 21:51 -0400
        Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 09:36 +0300
          Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 18:47 +1000
            Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 12:10 +0300
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 19:30 +1000
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 13:08 +0300
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 20:23 +1000
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 14:12 +0300
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-04 00:52 -0700
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Burak Arslan <burak.arslan@arskom.com.tr> - 2014-06-03 14:05 +0300
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 21:57 +1000
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Burak Arslan <burak.arslan@arskom.com.tr> - 2014-06-04 08:10 +0300
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-04 17:30 +1000
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-04 00:48 -0700
          Re: Benefits of asyncio "Frank Millman" <frank@chagford.com> - 2014-06-03 13:09 +0200
          Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 22:01 +1000
            Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 16:05 +0300
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 23:31 +1000
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 16:42 +0300
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 23:49 +1000
                Re: Benefits of asyncio Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-06-03 19:18 +0300
              Re: Benefits of asyncio Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-06-03 11:40 -0400
        Re: Benefits of asyncio Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com> - 2014-06-03 11:31 +0300
  Re: Benefits of asyncio Burak Arslan <burak.arslan@arskom.com.tr> - 2014-06-03 00:07 +0300
  Re: Benefits of asyncio Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2014-06-02 21:54 -0700

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