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Re: List spam

From Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: List spam
Date 2011-08-18 18:58 +0200
Organization Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France
Message-ID <8762lu64he.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> (permalink)
References <DC1EB7A8F4C3584EBCC2DB22D543B552A74454@aaqexchange.aaq.hfecorp.local> <mailman.164.1313678282.27778.python-list@python.org> <87d3g26a2r.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> <mailman.175.1313684163.27778.python-list@python.org>

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gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> writes:

>> Or save work and find a public nntp server (or setup one, or ask your
>> provider), and use a news reader to follow the list (even thunderbird
>> can do this). No spam, no need to store messages on your machine,
>> auto-purge after a configurable delay, etc.

> That is asking the user to take considerable effort and resources to do 
> that.  What is wrong with the mailing list only approach?

Nothing really.

Regarding effort and resources, once you've found a NNTP server there's
very little effort (probably less than subscribing to a mailing list). I
have 4 lines in my .emacs. And this lets me browse dozens of groups (or
thousands if I had time for this). It might not be easy to find a server
which will let you post, but that's because a few years back many
internet providers decided that nntp was too much traffic. I guess it
would now be considered ridiculous compared to the average web-site.

But I'd like to return the question. What's wrong with nntp? It looks
like everybody agrees that nntp brings spam. I just wanted to say that's
not true, I use nntp extensively and haven't seen spam for months (I'm
talking about 15-20 groups, not comp.lang.python only).

The real problem here seems to be google groups, which in some way
forwards spam to the mailing-list. How this happens is beyond my
understanding. But let's try to fix the real problem.

-- Alain.

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Re: List spam Ghodmode <ghodmode@ghodmode.com> - 2011-08-18 22:37 +0800
  Re: List spam Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2011-08-18 16:58 +0200
    Re: List spam Ghodmode <ghodmode@ghodmode.com> - 2011-08-19 00:09 +0800
      Re: List spam Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2011-08-18 21:13 +0300
        Re: List spam Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-08-18 21:33 -0700
    Re: List spam gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-08-18 12:15 -0400
      Re: List spam Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2011-08-18 18:58 +0200
        Re: List spam gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-08-18 14:25 -0400
          Re: List spam Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-08-19 12:10 +1000
            Re: List spam Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-08-19 00:03 -0400
            Re: List spam gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-08-18 22:35 -0400
      Re: List spam Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2011-08-18 17:10 +0000
        Re: List spam Philip Semanchuk <philip@semanchuk.com> - 2011-08-18 13:21 -0400
        Re: List spam gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-08-18 14:28 -0400
      Re: List spam Javier <nospam@nospam.com> - 2011-08-20 03:17 +0000
        Re: List spam Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-08-20 16:07 +1000
    Re: List spam Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2011-08-18 09:37 -0700
    Re: List spam Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2011-08-18 17:02 +0000
    Re: List spam Ghodmode <ghodmode@ghodmode.com> - 2011-08-19 01:29 +0800
    Re: List spam Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-08-18 15:58 -0400

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