Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces

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From	Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
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Subject	Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces
Date	Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:13:09 +0300
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Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>:

> Not quite; tools like diff that put a character at the beginning of
> the line are likely to be tab-aware,

No, just tried it again: diff outputs tabs as tabs.

   $ diff abc def
   1,2c1,2
   <       abc
   <         abc
   ---
   >       def
   >         def

where line 1 begins with a tab and line 2 begins with 8 spaces in each
file.

> and gcc is certainly going to comprehend them

   $ gcc -c test.c
   test.c:1:2: error: expected identifier or ‘(’ at end of input

where test.c contains

   <TAB>(<LF>

IOW, gcc reports that the open parenthesis is in column 2.

> (at least to the extent of treating them as whitespace).

Sure, but that doesn't concern the tab stops in any way.

> And I think less takes notice of them, too,

How?

> so it's only the very simplest tools like cat that actually ignore
> them or treat them as single characters (or even bytes).

They all seem to be "simple." At least Python is:

   $ python3 -c 'print	('
     File "<string>", line 1
       print	(
             ^
   SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing

where the caret is pointing at the wrong visual column.


Marko

Thread

Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-07-07 11:00 +1000
  Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-07 02:28 +0000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-07 12:50 +1000
  Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-07-07 05:35 +0000
    Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-07-08 11:22 +1000
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-08 00:03 -0700
      Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-08 08:48 +0000
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 19:05 +1000
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-08 12:09 +0300
          Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 20:28 +1000
            Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-07-08 14:13 +0300
              Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-08 21:37 +1000
        Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-07-09 12:41 +1000
          Re: PEP8 and 4 spaces wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-07-09 01:19 -0700

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