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| Date | 2012-09-26 02:31 -0700 |
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| Subject | Re: Article on the future of Python |
| From | wxjmfauth@gmail.com |
Le mercredi 26 septembre 2012 09:23:47 UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano a écrit : > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:35:39 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote: > > > > > Py 3.3 succeeded to somehow kill unicode and it has been transformed > > > into an "American" product for "American" users. > > > Steven, you are correct. But the price you pay for this is extremely high. Now, practically all characters are affected, espacially those *in* the Basic *** Multilingual*** Plane, these characters used by non "American" user (No offense here, I just use this word for ascii/latin-1). I'm ready to be considered as an idiot, but I'm not blind. As soon as I tested these characters, Py3.3 performs really badly. It seems to me it is legitimate to consider, there is a serious problem here. - I'm speaking about "language characters", one should speak about "scripting characters". - Obviously affected are not only the "language characters", but all characters, typographical signs, polytonic Greek, up to mathematical "Bold italic sans serif, Latin, uppercase", logically because all the "code points" are equivalent. Many people are commmenting, I have the feeling, I'm the only one who tested this. It is not necessary to dive in the Python code, understanding all this "characters stuff" is enough. And I am sorry, just saying "if you are not happy, switch back to Python 2.7 or use Ruby" (you know where you can read it) is in my mind not a correct answer. It only reflect a "yes, there is a problem, but..." Do not worry about me, I attempt to keep a neutral eye. It is my point of view (and facts). I will not open a blog with a "Python blah, blah, blah". jmf > For the first time in Python's history, Python on 32-bit systems handles > > strings containing Supplementary Multilingual Plane characters correctly, > > and it does so without doubling or quadrupling the amount of memory every > > single string takes up. > > >
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