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Re: Set a flag on the function or a global?

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On Tuesday 16 June 2015 10:35, MRAB wrote:

> On 2015-06-16 01:24, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com wrote:

>> Using a keyword argument for the edir function is the most intuitive
>> and easy to read, IMO.

edir() has a keyword argument: edir(x, dunders=False) suppresses the return 
of dunder names. But since the primary purpose of [e]dir is, in my opinion, 
to be used interactively, needing to type an extra 15 characters to hide 
dunders is too inconvenient.


>> Also, if two people are working on the same script, it could create
>> problems if one person wants to filter them, but the other doesn't.
>> That would create a state that they would both have to monitor and
>> keep setting back and forth, rather than each one just setting an
>> argument on their calls.
>>
> But it's meant to be used interactively. If they're using it in a
> script, they'd most likely set the argument appropriately.

Yes.

The primary use-case (at least *my* use-case, and hopefully others) is to 
have "from module import edir as dir" in their Python startup file. That 
means that when running interactively, they will get the enhanced version of 
dir, but when running a script or an application they'll just get the 
regular one.

(Ideally, the regular one will eventually gain the same superpowers as edir 
has, but that's a discussion for another day.)

Besides, apart from the inspect module, which probably shouldn't, who uses 
dir() programmatically?

(If you do, you'll be glad to hear that edir() behaves the same as regular 
dir() by default.)


-- 
Steve

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Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-15 23:57 +0000
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 10:07 +1000
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2015-06-15 17:19 -0700
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-06-16 10:20 +1000
    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-16 19:07 +1000
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2015-06-15 17:21 -0700
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-06-15 17:24 -0700
    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2015-06-16 01:35 +0100
      Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-16 18:18 +1000
        Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 13:45 +0100
          Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-16 22:46 +0000
        Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-06-17 09:51 +1000
          Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-18 00:59 +1000
            Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-17 17:06 +0200
              Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-18 01:55 +1000
                Documenting a function signature (was: Set a flag on the function or a global?) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-06-18 10:04 +1000
                Re: Documenting a function signature (was: Set a flag on the function or a global?) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 18:10 -0600
                Re: Documenting a function signature (was: Set a flag on the function or a global?) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 10:14 +1000
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                Re: Documenting a function signature (was: Set a flag on the function or a global?) Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-06-18 23:38 +0200
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  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Ron Adam <ron3200@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 20:24 -0400
    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-16 19:15 +1000
      Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Ron Adam <ron3200@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 07:02 -0400
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 10:32 +1000
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    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2015-06-15 17:53 -0700
      Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-15 19:04 -0700
    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2015-06-16 02:15 +0100
    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-16 18:30 +1000
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-06-16 07:06 +0100
    Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-16 19:28 +1000
  Re: Set a flag on the function or a global? Jonas Wielicki <jonas@wielicki.name> - 2015-06-16 12:00 +0200
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