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| Date | 2012-03-19 02:02 +0100 |
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| From | Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct |
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On 3/18/2012 0:28, Michael Torrie wrote: > I am familiar with how one > might implement a decompiler, as well as a compiler (having written a > simple one in the past), but even now I don't see a connection between a > decompiler and the process of converting a knuth algorithm into a python > python implementation. I was hoping you would shed some light on that. > But alas, I'm not really as much of an "interested reader" as you would > like me to be. Many ASM languages don't have structured control flow statements but only jmps, which are roughly equivalent to gotos. A good decompiler will need to analize the net of jmps and try to rewrite the code using structured control flow statements. The idea is to maximize readability, of course. >> Here's an example of rewriting: >> <snip> > > Thank you. Your example makes more clear your assertion about "labels" > and how really A1 and A5 were the only real labels in the example. > Though I still do not really see why "states" is not a good equivalence > for labels in this case. As well, Roy's idea for doing the state > machines, which works equally well as the nested if statements, is more > pythonic, which is generally preferred in Python. What I don't like about the entire issue is that (pseudo-)code shouldn't be cut and pasted or blindly ported to another language. Python is a very expressive language. I don't think you like it when someone writes C code in Python. Now we're writing ASM code in Python! If you want to emulate a DFA, do it, but if you want to implement an algorithm whose pseudo-code happens to use labels and gotos, please use higher-level control flow statements (unless you're pressed on time and you need it done yesterday, of course). Regarding labels and state, I simply meant that they're completely different things, in fact this program has two labels but infinitely many states: A1: cur = cur + 1 A2: goto A1 I was being pedantic, to say it your way ;) Kiuhnm
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Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@tkk.fi> - 2012-03-17 16:03 +0200
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2012-03-17 10:39 -0400
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-17 15:45 +0100
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-03-17 09:01 -0600
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-17 16:12 +0100
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-03-17 09:53 -0600
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-17 18:55 +0100
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-03-17 17:28 -0600
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-03-18 01:54 +0000
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-03-18 11:03 +0000
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-19 02:02 +0100
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-03-19 01:02 -0400
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Kiuhnm <kiuhnm03.4t.yahoo.it> - 2012-03-19 11:24 +0100
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-03-17 11:47 -0400
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Antti J Ylikoski <antti.ylikoski@tkk.fi> - 2012-03-17 18:31 +0200
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2012-03-17 11:44 -0700
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Evan Driscoll <driscoll@cs.wisc.edu> - 2012-03-17 21:59 -0500
Re: Programming D. E. Knuth in Python with the Deterministic Finite Automaton construct Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2012-03-18 11:08 +0000
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