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Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files

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On Saturday, 22 September 2012 18:51:01 UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 22:46:08 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
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> > On 9/21/2012 5:10 AM, Marco wrote:
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> >> I was trying to import a pyo module in Python 3.3, but Python does not
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> >> find it:
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> > You appear to be trying to *run*, not *import* a .pyo module.
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> Marco is using the standard mechanism for finding, importing, and running 
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> a module. I don't believe his use of -m should be a problem. It works in 
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> 3.2, and it works with .pyc files in 3.3, I see nothing to suggest it 
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> shouldn't work with .pyo files in 3.3.
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> >> $ echo "print(__file__)" > foo.py
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> >> $ python3.3 -O -m foo
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> > Since foo.py is in the current directory, I am not sure why you use '-m
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> > foo' instead of 'foo.py'. -m is for running a module somewhere on
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> > sys.path.
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> Yes, and the current directory is on sys.path.
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> I would be astonished if python -m could not find a module that happened 
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> to be in the current directory.
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> [...]
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> > Also, the
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> > -O is sort of redundant, or perhaps interfering, since its usual effect
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> > to to say 'get and put, from and to the cache, .pyo instead of .pyc'.
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> No it is not redundant. You link specifically to an bug tracker issue 
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> below where is is clearly decided that if you want to run a .pyo file you 
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> *must* use the -O switch. (I approve of this decision.)
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> >> /usr/local/bin/python3.3: No module named foo
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> >> How come? Thanks in advance, Marco
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> > You might read some of http://bugs.python.org/issue12982
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> > in particular, from http://bugs.python.org/issue12982#msg162814
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> Whose words are these following?
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> > Python interpreters exist to run Python code. The existence,
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> > persistence, and other details of compilation caches are
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> > version-dependent implementation details. Being able to execute from
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> > such caches without source present is also an implementation detail, and
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> > for CPython, it gets secondary support at best. (This is a compromise
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> > between full support and no support.)"
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> I'm not sure if these are your words, or if you are quoting some random 
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> commenter on the pydev list, or one of the lead developers who might 
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> actually know what he is talking about.
It is Terry J. Reedy's words - see end of http://bugs.python.org/issue12982#msg162814 
 
 
> As I recall, some time in the recent past Guido came down *hard* against 
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> the suggestion that support for running sourceless files (.pyc and .pyo) 
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> should be dropped. Even if I'm misremembering, it is the case that the 
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> Python 3.3 will find and run a .pyc file, but not a .pyo file. There's a 
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> new candidate release of 3.3 due out over the next couple of days. If it 
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> shows the same behaviour, it should be reported as a bug.
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> -- 
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> Steven

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Python 3.3 and .pyo files Marco <nameDOTsurname@gmail.com> - 2012-09-21 11:10 +0200
  Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-21 12:55 +0000
    Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Marco <nameDOTsurname@gmail.com> - 2012-09-21 17:27 +0200
  Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-21 22:46 -0400
    Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-22 13:21 +0000
      Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-22 07:01 -0700
      Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-22 18:54 -0400
  Re: Python 3.3 and .pyo files Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-27 02:25 +0000

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