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Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript

From Markus Triska <triska@metalevel.at>
Newsgroups comp.lang.postscript
Subject Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript
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Date 2016-10-03 02:03 +0200

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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> writes:

>> I use PostScript a lot for various visualizations. Python and the other
>> mentioned alternatives are completely out of the question for this, not
>> only because doing it would be more verbose and less convenient, but
>> also because people who need the result (i.e., actually see or print the
>> drawing) may not have Python or other interpreters installed, and my not
>> be in a position to do so.
>
> Or they might not have a PostScript interpreter available, either.

The point is that this is the less likely event of the two, in the
situations I have seen. In addition, PostScript printers are currently
vastly more widely available than Python or Cairo printers, of which I
have seen none so far. So, you can often print PostScript directly.

>> Another use case, real-time visualizations of search processes, is
>> simply not possible in PDF or XML (how can an XML file read from
>> standard input?), and is also conveniently expressed with PostScript.
>
> How about interactive animations
> <https://github.com/ldo/qahirah_notebooks>?

I hope they are great. I want to make one thing clear at this point:

There are several well-known shortcomings of PostScript, and they are
likely especially well-known in this newsgroup. However, the existence
of other tools for different tasks definitely isn't one of them, and
even less so when they cannot, either in principle or due to their being
less widely available or their not being available at all in the
situations where PostScript *is* available, subsume it. For example, a
comparatively limited page description or XML format cannot replace a
Turing-complete programming language due to inherent reasons. As another
example, a language that is not well supported by other tools in which
PostScript is well supported and where I need its functionality cannot
take the position of PostScript either. I am thinking for example of
LaTeX etc., where I frequently embed PostScript files, but not Cairo.

All the best,
Markus

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A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Dylan McNamee <dylan.mcnamee@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:29 -0700
  Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript jdaw1 <jdawiseman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 15:54 -0700
  Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 03:11 -0700
    Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Dylan McNamee <dylan.mcnamee@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:54 -0700
      Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 13:55 -0700
        Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript jdaw1 <jdawiseman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 01:06 -0700
          Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 14:46 -0700
            Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript jdaw1 <jdawiseman@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 16:04 -0700
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        Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2016-09-20 22:24 +0000
          Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Martin Leese <please@see.Web.for.e-mail.INVALID> - 2016-09-21 13:36 -0600
            Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 16:27 -0700
  Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Alan <alan.isaac@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 18:57 -0700
    Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 20:04 -0700
      Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:45 -0700
        Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 04:29 -0700
          Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 10:41 -0700
            Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 14:49 -0700
              Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-03 21:52 -0700
    Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Markus Triska <triska@metalevel.at> - 2016-10-01 22:16 +0200
      Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 13:30 -0700
      Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 16:07 -0700
        Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Markus Triska <triska@metalevel.at> - 2016-10-03 02:03 +0200
          Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 19:47 -0700
          Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 02:00 -0700
            Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2016-10-04 10:10 +0100
              Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Dylan McNamee <dylan.mcnamee@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 08:00 -0700
              Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-04 13:57 -0700
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2016-10-05 09:31 +0100
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 06:37 -0700
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript ken <ken@spamcop.net> - 2016-10-05 16:10 +0100
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript jdaw1 <jdawiseman@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 13:37 -0700
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 18:13 -0700
            Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Markus Triska <triska@metalevel.at> - 2016-10-05 22:44 +0200
              Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-05 18:12 -0700
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Markus Triska <triska@metalevel.at> - 2016-10-08 10:24 +0200
                Re: A one-page Caesar's Cipher kit, in raw PostScript Lawrence D’Oliveiro <lawrencedo99@gmail.com> - 2016-10-08 11:21 -0700

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