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| Started by | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2011-04-03 04:54 -0700 |
| Last post | 2011-04-28 08:12 -0700 |
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PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-03 04:54 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2011-04-03 14:03 +0200
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-03 18:36 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-03 21:54 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-04 03:41 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 13:36 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-06 22:14 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 20:54 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-07 09:08 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 16:21 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 21:00 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-07 03:28 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-07 19:53 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 07:04 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 10:45 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-08 14:01 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 16:45 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 16:55 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-08 20:02 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:07 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-13 05:23 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 10:59 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-13 19:33 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 11:29 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2011-04-13 20:36 +0200
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:08 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2011-04-19 01:31 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 08:17 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-13 04:46 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 09:05 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 17:22 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:35 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-19 03:15 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 11:05 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 19:57 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-08 22:49 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:31 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-13 04:58 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-13 13:23 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 07:29 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 09:44 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 17:25 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:37 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "James Carlock" <jcarlock1@somemail.com> - 2011-04-18 19:07 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-18 20:14 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 22:05 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-19 06:03 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 06:50 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-19 19:52 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 21:00 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-19 22:12 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 21:27 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-19 22:58 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 22:56 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 23:11 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-20 05:20 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 07:27 -0500
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-20 16:44 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 17:16 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 11:30 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 18:59 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser "James Carlock" <jcarlock1@somemail.com> - 2011-04-24 09:23 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-29 12:46 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-29 12:45 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-09 02:29 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:33 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-13 05:25 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-13 05:00 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-13 13:43 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-13 08:17 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 11:16 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-13 15:12 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-14 04:37 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-14 08:53 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-14 12:47 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:10 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 20:57 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:22 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-19 03:42 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2011-04-09 12:26 +0200
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-09 12:10 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-09 17:09 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:43 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-13 05:08 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:43 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-13 15:13 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-13 20:21 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-13 19:22 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-14 10:10 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:57 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-13 13:20 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 09:19 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-19 03:42 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-19 10:36 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 18:46 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 20:32 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-19 21:35 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 22:19 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-19 19:52 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-19 22:15 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 12:18 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-07 03:19 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-04 09:53 +0100
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-03 13:39 +0100
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-03 18:42 -0700
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-03 21:55 -0400
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-04 03:48 -0600
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 13:43 -0700
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2011-04-04 17:31 -0500
Re: PHP runs in WinXP command window but not in browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 20:40 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-04 17:19 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jim Higgins <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-05 18:36 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-05 16:07 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-05 23:01 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-05 23:27 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-13 12:14 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 20:18 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-06 20:19 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-07 13:16 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-07 14:09 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 10:33 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-04-08 14:00 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 10:34 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 18:17 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 10:53 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-08 18:30 +0000
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-12 20:06 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2011-04-13 05:11 -0600
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-04-13 13:25 +0100
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-13 13:46 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 11:27 -0700
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser William Gill <nospam@domain.invalid> - 2011-04-18 19:15 -0400
Re: PHP Runs In WinXP Command Window But Not In Browser Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 08:12 -0700
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-19 18:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ae232c00-aba7-4e6e-8ebf-95994b39994c@hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1181 |
On Apr 18, 7:07 pm, "James Carlock" <jcarlo...@somemail.com> wrote: > "Peter Lauren" <peterdlauren at gmail.com> wrote... > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:44:31 -0700, Peter Lauren > > wrote: > > > I've registered a domain name. Would I set up a > > DNS server though a web host like GoDaddy or would > > I be jsut as well using a free DNS server? > > GoDaddy provides the DNS servers when you buy hosting > through them. They provide a webpage to configure the > DNS servers. NOTE: Every change you make to the DNS > there may take up to 24 hours (or longer) to get > processed. Also, once you make a change to ANY DNS > the server, based on how they (the hosting company) > set up the server and the times they place in the > server, pushes the domain names out to some master > servers. > Hi Jim, I'm new to this and do not see why I would want to change the DNS once it is assigned. I thought that the DNS just translates user friendly host names into IP addresses. Would I need to change the DNS if the host name and IP address remained the same? One concern that I do have is storage since I will need to store and process several very large files. > GoDaddy provides webpages describing how to set up > their DNS (which basically configures a set of IP > their IP addresses to point to your domain name(s) > and vice versa). > > Configure Apache on your XP machine to run PHP and > then use your IP address as a SERVERNAME for the > very first parameter. You can use the hosts file > to configure the IP address to the host name as > well for a quick and easy way to configure DNS > for self-testing on XP. Currently ServerName, in httpd.conf, is localhost:80. Should I change that to the IP address I get from ipconfig? When you say I can use the hosts file to configure the IP address to the host name, do you mean to do the same mapping on my machine that the DNS does on the web host? Thanks, Peter.
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| From | "James Carlock" <jcarlock1@somemail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-24 09:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ip187p$fmf$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1211 |
: Hi Jim, : : I'm new to this and do not see why I would want : to change the DNS once it is assigned. I thought : that the DNS just translates user friendly host : names into IP addresses. Would I need to change : the DNS if the host name and IP address remained : the same? No, if your IP does not change, you do not need to worry about it, except when you change to a another HOST (or possibly other situations). : One concern that I do have is storage since I will : need to store and process several very large files. > Configure Apache on your XP machine to run PHP and > then use your IP address as a SERVERNAME for the > very first parameter. You can use the hosts file > to configure the IP address to the host name as > well for a quick and easy way to configure DNS > for self-testing on XP. : ServerName, in httpd.conf, is localhost:80. : Should I change that to the IP address I get from : ipconfig? When you say I can use the hosts file : to configure the IP address to the host name, do : you mean to do the same mapping on my machine that : the DNS does on the web host? The HOSTS file on a machine provides a quick way to tell Apache (if you wanted to test things before uploading them to your HOST) where to reach a domain name configured for testing. You can find the hosts file in the following space: %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\ It might be located in another space if you run an x64 version of Windows. The "hosts" file is a plain text file which reads something like: # Start of entries inserted by # Spybot - Search & Destroy # Copyright 2000-2008 Safer Networking Limited 127.0.0.1 yyour_ssample_ddomain_nname.com SpyBot Search & Destroy uses it to prevent visiting remote sites and which helps prevent your machine from visiting viral/SPAM/unorthodox sites. You can use it to tell Apache where to reach an example domain. It provides the same information that DNS provides, but gets read before the software goes to an outside DNS to find the information. Once found in the HOSTS, most software uses that and does not go out to an outside source (server). Above, I did change the unorthodox domain name that SpyBot placed in there to something that will not upset anyone here and is unlikely to get used anywhere/anytime. I do not use LOCALHOST for much of anything. However, I read that using LOCALHOST inside of Apache might create some problems. I can not confirm that without making a lot of changes and I do not have the time to test such things. SpyBot Search & Destroy uses the "hosts" to store the domain names of perhaps 1000 or more domains that they found as lude, crude, porn or what ever and it prevents the machine from going to an outside DNS to look up those domain names and visiting those. I have not followed the thread here, as I've been a tad busy with other things. Forgive me for being a tad slow on my reply. The details that follow apply to running/hosting an Apache server on your own machine. httpd.conf Listen = 80 ServerName = your_ip_address Hope this helps. Good luck. -- Jim Carlock http://www.facebook.com/jim.carlock
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-29 12:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <df95c0fd-f99a-4e54-b368-475e06cae0a8@q32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1281 |
On Apr 24, 9:23 am, "James Carlock" <jcarlo...@somemail.com> wrote: > : Hi Jim, > : > : I'm new to this and do not see why I would want > : to change the DNS once it is assigned. I thought > : that the DNS just translates user friendly host > : names into IP addresses. Would I need to change > : the DNS if the host name and IP address remained > : the same? > > No, if your IP does not change, you do not need to > worry about it, except when you change to a another > HOST (or possibly other situations). > > : One concern that I do have is storage since I will > : need to store and process several very large files. > > > Configure Apache on your XP machine to run PHP and > > then use your IP address as a SERVERNAME for the > > very first parameter. You can use the hosts file > > to configure the IP address to the host name as > > well for a quick and easy way to configure DNS > > for self-testing on XP. > > : ServerName, in httpd.conf, is localhost:80. > : Should I change that to the IP address I get from > : ipconfig? When you say I can use the hosts file > : to configure the IP address to the host name, do > : you mean to do the same mapping on my machine that > : the DNS does on the web host? > > The HOSTS file on a machine provides a quick way to > tell Apache (if you wanted to test things before > uploading them to your HOST) where to reach a domain > name configured for testing. > > You can find the hosts file in the following space: > %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\ > > It might be located in another space if you run an > x64 version of Windows. > > The "hosts" file is a plain text file which reads > something like: > > # Start of entries inserted by > # Spybot - Search & Destroy > # Copyright 2000-2008 Safer Networking Limited > 127.0.0.1 yyour_ssample_ddomain_nname.com > > SpyBot Search & Destroy uses it to prevent visiting > remote sites and which helps prevent your machine > from visiting viral/SPAM/unorthodox sites. You can > use it to tell Apache where to reach an example > domain. It provides the same information that DNS > provides, but gets read before the software goes to > an outside DNS to find the information. Once found > in the HOSTS, most software uses that and does not > go out to an outside source (server). Above, I did > change the unorthodox domain name that SpyBot placed > in there to something that will not upset anyone > here and is unlikely to get used anywhere/anytime. > > I do not use LOCALHOST for much of anything. However, > I read that using LOCALHOST inside of Apache might > create some problems. I can not confirm that without > making a lot of changes and I do not have the time to > test such things. > > SpyBot Search & Destroy uses the "hosts" to store the > domain names of perhaps 1000 or more domains that > they found as lude, crude, porn or what ever and it > prevents the machine from going to an outside DNS to > look up those domain names and visiting those. > > I have not followed the thread here, as I've been a > tad busy with other things. Forgive me for being a > tad slow on my reply. > > The details that follow apply to running/hosting an > Apache server on your own machine. > > httpd.conf > Listen = 80 > ServerName = your_ip_address > > Hope this helps. Good luck. > > -- > Jim Carlockhttp://www.facebook.com/jim.carlock Thank you for your very informative post. When my kids were teenagers, I used the "hosts" file to block known undesirable sites by setting their urls to the IP address of a mathematics learning site. If anyone tried to access an off-color site they would get some mathematics instead.
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-29 12:45 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e7281d7e-9054-4a12-9c67-00396005fa00@k11g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1281 |
On Apr 24, 9:23 am, "James Carlock" <jcarlo...@somemail.com> wrote: > : Hi Jim, > : > : I'm new to this and do not see why I would want > : to change the DNS once it is assigned. I thought > : that the DNS just translates user friendly host > : names into IP addresses. Would I need to change > : the DNS if the host name and IP address remained > : the same? > > No, if your IP does not change, you do not need to > worry about it, except when you change to a another > HOST (or possibly other situations). > > : One concern that I do have is storage since I will > : need to store and process several very large files. > > > Configure Apache on your XP machine to run PHP and > > then use your IP address as a SERVERNAME for the > > very first parameter. You can use the hosts file > > to configure the IP address to the host name as > > well for a quick and easy way to configure DNS > > for self-testing on XP. > > : ServerName, in httpd.conf, is localhost:80. > : Should I change that to the IP address I get from > : ipconfig? When you say I can use the hosts file > : to configure the IP address to the host name, do > : you mean to do the same mapping on my machine that > : the DNS does on the web host? > > The HOSTS file on a machine provides a quick way to > tell Apache (if you wanted to test things before > uploading them to your HOST) where to reach a domain > name configured for testing. > > You can find the hosts file in the following space: > %systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\ > > It might be located in another space if you run an > x64 version of Windows. > > The "hosts" file is a plain text file which reads > something like: > > # Start of entries inserted by > # Spybot - Search & Destroy > # Copyright 2000-2008 Safer Networking Limited > 127.0.0.1 yyour_ssample_ddomain_nname.com > > SpyBot Search & Destroy uses it to prevent visiting > remote sites and which helps prevent your machine > from visiting viral/SPAM/unorthodox sites. You can > use it to tell Apache where to reach an example > domain. It provides the same information that DNS > provides, but gets read before the software goes to > an outside DNS to find the information. Once found > in the HOSTS, most software uses that and does not > go out to an outside source (server). Above, I did > change the unorthodox domain name that SpyBot placed > in there to something that will not upset anyone > here and is unlikely to get used anywhere/anytime. > > I do not use LOCALHOST for much of anything. However, > I read that using LOCALHOST inside of Apache might > create some problems. I can not confirm that without > making a lot of changes and I do not have the time to > test such things. > > SpyBot Search & Destroy uses the "hosts" to store the > domain names of perhaps 1000 or more domains that > they found as lude, crude, porn or what ever and it > prevents the machine from going to an outside DNS to > look up those domain names and visiting those. > > I have not followed the thread here, as I've been a > tad busy with other things. Forgive me for being a > tad slow on my reply. > > The details that follow apply to running/hosting an > Apache server on your own machine. > > httpd.conf > Listen = 80 > ServerName = your_ip_address > > Hope this helps. Good luck. > > -- > Jim Carlockhttp://www.facebook.com/jim.carlock Thank you for your very informative post. When my kids were teenagers, I used the "hosts" file to block known undesirable sites by setting their urls to the IP address of a mathematics learning site. If anyone tried to access an off-color site they would get some mathematics instead.
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| From | crankypuss <no@email.thanks> |
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| Date | 2011-04-09 02:29 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <qq50q6hfh6e867nchbegs1r2ocgsnf4bd9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1017 |
Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> wrote: >On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >> >> >>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >> >>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >> >>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >> >>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >> >>> looks like I'm in business. >> >> >> Fantastic. >> >> > Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >> > icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >> > admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >> > DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >> > It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >> >> > Thanks, >> > Peter. >> >> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >> >> -- >> ================== >> Remove the "x" from my email address >> Jerry Stuckle >> JDS Computer Training Corp. >> jstuck...@attglobal.net >> ================== > >I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >file that said ># This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. > >I fixed that and now it works. > >Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >part though Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it *something*. Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're more likely to get an answer you can use. -- no aluminum siding offers today
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-12 20:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b856ad0f-91a7-466b-84c0-2eb3ded048dc@d12g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1024 |
On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss <n...@email.thanks> wrote: > Peter Lauren <peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: > >On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > > >> > On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... > > >> >>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch > >> >>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function > >> >>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller > >> >>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it > >> >>> looks like I'm in business. > > >> >> Fantastic. > > >> > Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar > >> > icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In > >> > admin. mode, I can edit the file and set > >> > DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" > >> > It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Peter. > > >> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The > >> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. > > >> -- > >> ================== > >> Remove the "x" from my email address > >> Jerry Stuckle > >> JDS Computer Training Corp. > >> jstuck...@attglobal.net > >> ================== > > >I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf > >file that said > ># This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. > > >I fixed that and now it works. > > >Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ > >part though > > Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to > send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it > *something*. > > Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point > additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need > to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex > for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. > > If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're > more likely to get an answer you can use. > > -- > no aluminum siding offers today I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local PC. Thanks, Peter.
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 05:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <io3q73$hdt$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1044 |
On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: >> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >> >>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >> >>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. >> >>>>>> Fantastic. >> >>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Peter. >> >>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >> >>>> -- >>>> ================== >>>> Remove the "x" from my email address >>>> Jerry Stuckle >>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. >>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net >>>> ================== >> >>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >>> file that said >>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. >> >>> I fixed that and now it works. >> >>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >>> part though >> >> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to >> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it >> *something*. >> >> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point >> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need >> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex >> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. >> >> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're >> more likely to get an answer you can use. >> >> -- >> no aluminum siding offers today > > I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the > Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local > PC. > > Thanks, > Peter. Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript code, which is an entirely different animal). -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle JDS Computer Training Corp. jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | crankypuss <no@email.thanks> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 05:00 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <tf0bq656k78ct2k9r5ohhd565ka6btsujt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1050 |
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: >On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >> On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: >>> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>> >>>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >>> >>>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >>>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >>>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >>>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >>>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. >>> >>>>>>> Fantastic. >>> >>>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >>>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >>>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >>>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >>>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Peter. >>> >>>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >>>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ================== >>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address >>>>> Jerry Stuckle >>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. >>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net >>>>> ================== >>> >>>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >>>> file that said >>>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. >>> >>>> I fixed that and now it works. >>> >>>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >>>> part though >>> >>> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to >>> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it >>> *something*. >>> >>> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point >>> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need >>> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex >>> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. >>> >>> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're >>> more likely to get an answer you can use. >>> >>> -- >>> no aluminum siding offers today >> >> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the >> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local >> PC. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter. > >Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript >code, which is an entirely different animal). Seems like Peter is missing a bit of context. Maybe someone knows of a site that has a good diagram of the client/server relationship. -- no aluminum siding offers today
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 13:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <timstreater-E0AC96.13432113042011@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #1054 |
In article <tf0bq656k78ct2k9r5ohhd565ka6btsujt@4ax.com>, crankypuss <no@email.thanks> wrote: > Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: > > >On 12/4/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > >> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the > >> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local > >> PC. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Peter. > > > >Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript > >code, which is an entirely different animal). > > Seems like Peter is missing a bit of context. Maybe someone knows of > a site that has a good diagram of the client/server relationship. I did an ascii-art diagram of two machines showing which bit of software sits on which machine, way upthread. The OP has not, to my knowledge said whether he saw it or whether it helped or not, and if not why not. In this business, as in any other, you have to learn how to ask questions intelligently. This can be hard if you're thoroughly confused. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" -- Bill of Rights 1689
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| From | crankypuss <no@email.thanks> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 08:17 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <5vbbq6ta4r9sv4c70meotujsr55jnicrr8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1062 |
Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> wrote: >In article <tf0bq656k78ct2k9r5ohhd565ka6btsujt@4ax.com>, > crankypuss <no@email.thanks> wrote: > >> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: >> >> >On 12/4/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > >> >> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the >> >> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local >> >> PC. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Peter. >> > >> >Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript >> >code, which is an entirely different animal). >> >> Seems like Peter is missing a bit of context. Maybe someone knows of >> a site that has a good diagram of the client/server relationship. > >I did an ascii-art diagram of two machines showing which bit of software >sits on which machine, way upthread. The OP has not, to my knowledge >said whether he saw it or whether it helped or not, and if not why not. I noticed it, whether he did or not, but there ought to be something on the web that shows a similar diagram with more details. >In this business, as in any other, you have to learn how to ask >questions intelligently. This can be hard if you're thoroughly confused. No kidding. Sometimes it's better to ask questions stupidly rather than intelligently though, that at least seems to prevent asking the wrong questions. <g> -- no aluminum siding offers today
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 11:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <96f7d118-8e77-46a1-b2b0-075729d0901b@17g2000prr.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1050 |
On Apr 13, 5:25 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: > On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > > > > > On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: > >> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: > >>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > > >>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... > > >>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch > >>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function > >>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller > >>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it > >>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. > > >>>>>> Fantastic. > > >>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar > >>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In > >>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set > >>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" > >>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www > > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Peter. > > >>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The > >>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. > > >>>> -- > >>>> ================== > >>>> Remove the "x" from my email address > >>>> Jerry Stuckle > >>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. > >>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net > >>>> ================== > > >>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf > >>> file that said > >>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. > > >>> I fixed that and now it works. > > >>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ > >>> part though > > >> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to > >> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it > >> *something*. > > >> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point > >> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need > >> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex > >> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. > > >> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're > >> more likely to get an answer you can use. > > >> -- > >> no aluminum siding offers today > > > I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the > > Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local > > PC. > > > Thanks, > > Peter. > > Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript > code, which is an entirely different animal). > > -- > ================== > Remove the "x" from my email address > Jerry Stuckle > JDS Computer Training Corp. > jstuck...@attglobal.net > ================== I learned JavaScript before this and did not need a browser as you point out. It was when I started using PHP that I found I could not see the output on my browser until I installed WAMP and started it running. Now I can see the output when WAMP is running so the browser would appear to be accessing the server. The server is currently offline but I still get the output on my browser. Thanks, Peter.
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 15:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <io4sii$3mf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1067 |
On 4/13/2011 2:16 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > On Apr 13, 5:25 am, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >> On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: >>>> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >> >>>>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >>>>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >>>>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >>>>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >>>>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. >> >>>>>>>> Fantastic. >> >>>>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >>>>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >>>>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >>>>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >>>>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Peter. >> >>>>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >>>>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ================== >>>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address >>>>>> Jerry Stuckle >>>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. >>>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net >>>>>> ================== >> >>>>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >>>>> file that said >>>>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. >> >>>>> I fixed that and now it works. >> >>>>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >>>>> part though >> >>>> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to >>>> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it >>>> *something*. >> >>>> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point >>>> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need >>>> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex >>>> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. >> >>>> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're >>>> more likely to get an answer you can use. >> >>>> -- >>>> no aluminum siding offers today >> >>> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the >>> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local >>> PC. >> >>> Thanks, >>> Peter. >> >> Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript >> code, which is an entirely different animal). >> > > I learned JavaScript before this and did not need a browser as you > point out. It was when I started using PHP that I found I could not > see the output on my browser until I installed WAMP and started it > running. Now I can see the output when WAMP is running so the browser > would appear to be accessing the server. The server is currently > offline but I still get the output on my browser. > > Thanks, > Peter. The server is not offline. It is running, or your browser would get a connection error message. It may not be available to the internet (and should NOT be as others have pointed out), but it is running. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle JDS Computer Training Corp. jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | crankypuss <no@email.thanks> |
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| Date | 2011-04-14 04:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <38idq6lndaet1grknontuuu1tt51g92eim@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1072 |
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: >On 4/13/2011 2:16 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >> On Apr 13, 5:25 am, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>> On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: >>>>> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >>> >>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >>>>>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >>>>>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >>>>>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >>>>>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. >>> >>>>>>>>> Fantastic. >>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >>>>>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >>>>>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >>>>>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >>>>>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Peter. >>> >>>>>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >>>>>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ================== >>>>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address >>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle >>>>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. >>>>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net >>>>>>> ================== >>> >>>>>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >>>>>> file that said >>>>>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. >>> >>>>>> I fixed that and now it works. >>> >>>>>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >>>>>> part though >>> >>>>> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to >>>>> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it >>>>> *something*. >>> >>>>> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point >>>>> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need >>>>> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex >>>>> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. >>> >>>>> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're >>>>> more likely to get an answer you can use. >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> no aluminum siding offers today >>> >>>> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the >>>> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local >>>> PC. >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Peter. >>> >>> Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript >>> code, which is an entirely different animal). >>> >> >> I learned JavaScript before this and did not need a browser as you >> point out. It was when I started using PHP that I found I could not >> see the output on my browser until I installed WAMP and started it >> running. Now I can see the output when WAMP is running so the browser >> would appear to be accessing the server. The server is currently >> offline but I still get the output on my browser. >> >> Thanks, >> Peter. > >The server is not offline. Terminology issue, see below. >It is running, or your browser would get a >connection error message. > >It may not be available to the internet (and should NOT be as others >have pointed out), but it is running. Wampserver uses the term "offline" to mean "not available to the internet". The term "local" might have been more descriptive, but "offline" is the term they chose. -- no aluminum siding offers today
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| From | Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2011-04-14 08:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <io6qou$cmc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1083 |
On 4/14/2011 6:37 AM, crankypuss wrote: > Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 4/13/2011 2:16 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>> On Apr 13, 5:25 am, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>> On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: >>>>>> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >>>>>>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >>>>>>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >>>>>>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >>>>>>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. >>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fantastic. >>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >>>>>>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >>>>>>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >>>>>>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >>>>>>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Peter. >>>> >>>>>>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >>>>>>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ================== >>>>>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address >>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle >>>>>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. >>>>>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net >>>>>>>> ================== >>>> >>>>>>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >>>>>>> file that said >>>>>>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. >>>> >>>>>>> I fixed that and now it works. >>>> >>>>>>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >>>>>>> part though >>>> >>>>>> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to >>>>>> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it >>>>>> *something*. >>>> >>>>>> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point >>>>>> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need >>>>>> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex >>>>>> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. >>>> >>>>>> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're >>>>>> more likely to get an answer you can use. >>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> no aluminum siding offers today >>>> >>>>> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the >>>>> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local >>>>> PC. >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Peter. >>>> >>>> Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript >>>> code, which is an entirely different animal). >>>> >>> >>> I learned JavaScript before this and did not need a browser as you >>> point out. It was when I started using PHP that I found I could not >>> see the output on my browser until I installed WAMP and started it >>> running. Now I can see the output when WAMP is running so the browser >>> would appear to be accessing the server. The server is currently >>> offline but I still get the output on my browser. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Peter. >> >> The server is not offline. > > Terminology issue, see below. > >> It is running, or your browser would get a >> connection error message. >> >> It may not be available to the internet (and should NOT be as others >> have pointed out), but it is running. > > Wampserver uses the term "offline" to mean "not available to the > internet". The term "local" might have been more descriptive, but > "offline" is the term they chose. > A very poor choice of terminology, IMHO. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle JDS Computer Training Corp. jstucklex@attglobal.net ==================
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| From | crankypuss <no@email.thanks> |
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| Date | 2011-04-14 12:47 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <j5geq61j6q5oor6onmd8fr5qe4j33r85ak@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1084 |
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: >On 4/14/2011 6:37 AM, crankypuss wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On 4/13/2011 2:16 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>>> On Apr 13, 5:25 am, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: >>>>>>> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch >>>>>>>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function >>>>>>>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller >>>>>>>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it >>>>>>>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fantastic. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar >>>>>>>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In >>>>>>>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set >>>>>>>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" >>>>>>>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Peter. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The >>>>>>>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ================== >>>>>>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address >>>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle >>>>>>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. >>>>>>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net >>>>>>>>> ================== >>>>> >>>>>>>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf >>>>>>>> file that said >>>>>>>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. >>>>> >>>>>>>> I fixed that and now it works. >>>>> >>>>>>>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >>>>>>>> part though >>>>> >>>>>>> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to >>>>>>> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it >>>>>>> *something*. >>>>> >>>>>>> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point >>>>>>> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need >>>>>>> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex >>>>>>> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. >>>>> >>>>>>> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're >>>>>>> more likely to get an answer you can use. >>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> no aluminum siding offers today >>>>> >>>>>> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the >>>>>> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local >>>>>> PC. >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Peter. >>>>> >>>>> Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript >>>>> code, which is an entirely different animal). >>>>> >>>> >>>> I learned JavaScript before this and did not need a browser as you >>>> point out. It was when I started using PHP that I found I could not >>>> see the output on my browser until I installed WAMP and started it >>>> running. Now I can see the output when WAMP is running so the browser >>>> would appear to be accessing the server. The server is currently >>>> offline but I still get the output on my browser. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Peter. >>> >>> The server is not offline. >> >> Terminology issue, see below. >> >>> It is running, or your browser would get a >>> connection error message. >>> >>> It may not be available to the internet (and should NOT be as others >>> have pointed out), but it is running. >> >> Wampserver uses the term "offline" to mean "not available to the >> internet". The term "local" might have been more descriptive, but >> "offline" is the term they chose. >> > >A very poor choice of terminology, IMHO. Dunno whether I'd agree or not... "not running", "local only", "internet connected"... could've been lots of terms chosen but they seem to have picked what they picked. Having found it necessary to chose a bunch of terms for naming menu-items and the like, my opinion is that *good* choices are hard to come by. Anyway in wampserver-speek what "offline" means seems to be "local only". -- no aluminum siding offers today
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-18 14:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0966dcf8-580d-4b59-b6c3-70bf4426624a@17g2000prr.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1072 |
On Apr 13, 3:12 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: > On 4/13/2011 2:16 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > > > > > On Apr 13, 5:25 am, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 4/12/2011 11:33 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > > >>> On Apr 9, 4:29 am, crankypuss<n...@email.thanks> wrote: > >>>> Peter Lauren<peterdlau...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Apr 8, 2:01 pm, Jerry Stuckle<jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote: > >>>>>> On 4/8/2011 1:45 PM, Peter Lauren wrote: > > >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 8:04 am, "Mr. B-o-B"<mr.chew.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Peter Lauren cried from the depths of the abyss... > > >>>>>>>>> I just noticed that I do have the Wampserver icon on the quick launch > >>>>>>>>> part of the task bar. I do actually get one menu, with the function > >>>>>>>>> you mention, with a a single click of the left button and a smaller > >>>>>>>>> menu, with the Exit function, with a single click of the right. So it > >>>>>>>>> looks like I'm in business. > > >>>>>>>> Fantastic. > > >>>>>>> Thanks. But I'm still having a problem. I left-click on the task bar > >>>>>>> icon, click on Apache:httpd.conf, and a file opens in notepad. In > >>>>>>> admin. mode, I can edit the file and set > >>>>>>> DocumentRoot "f:/SomeOther/Directory" > >>>>>>> It still uses the .php file in c:\wamp\www > > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Peter. > > >>>>>> Did you stop and restart Apache after making the changes? The > >>>>>> configuration file is only run when Apache starts up, not on every request. > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> ================== > >>>>>> Remove the "x" from my email address > >>>>>> Jerry Stuckle > >>>>>> JDS Computer Training Corp. > >>>>>> jstuck...@attglobal.net > >>>>>> ================== > > >>>>> I fixed the Forbidden problem. There was a part in the httpd.conf > >>>>> file that said > >>>>> # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to. > > >>>>> I fixed that and now it works. > > >>>>> Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ > >>>>> part though > > >>>> Depends on what you really want to do. The browser needs a domain to > >>>> send your request to, there's no way I know of to avoid giving it > >>>> *something*. > > >>>> Since you're on windows, you can modify your "hosts" file to point > >>>> additional domains at ip-addr 127.0.0.1 if you want. Then you'll need > >>>> to update "httpd.conf" for those domains too. It gets a bit complex > >>>> for me (at least) to attempt to explain here. > > >>>> If you can be more explicit about what you really want to do, you're > >>>> more likely to get an answer you can use. > > >>>> -- > >>>> no aluminum siding offers today > > >>> I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the > >>> Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local > >>> PC. > > >>> Thanks, > >>> Peter. > > >> Browsers don't run PHP or Java code (they can, however, run Javascript > >> code, which is an entirely different animal). > > > I learned JavaScript before this and did not need a browser as you > > point out. It was when I started using PHP that I found I could not > > see the output on my browser until I installed WAMP and started it > > running. Now I can see the output when WAMP is running so the browser > > would appear to be accessing the server. The server is currently > > offline but I still get the output on my browser. > > > Thanks, > > Peter. > > The server is not offline. It is running, or your browser would get a > connection error message. > > It may not be available to the internet (and should NOT be as others > have pointed out), but it is running. > > -- > ================== > Remove the "x" from my email address > Jerry Stuckle > JDS Computer Training Corp. > jstuck...@attglobal.net > ================== I meant it's not connected to the Internet. The wampserver icon says "server Offline but I guess that just means it's not connected to the Internet. Thanks, Peter.
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| From | Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcmahon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-13 20:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4da60e3a$0$12063$bed64819@gradwell.net> |
| In reply to | #1044 |
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:33:54 -0700, Peter Lauren wrote: > I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the > Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local PC. You can not run php code on your browser. php code as you understand it runs in a script processor that operates within a web server environment and generates output that that web server then delivers to a web browser across an internet connection. Rgds Denis McMahon
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| From | Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2011-04-18 14:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <65c3e022-9fbe-47b5-a46f-9d0757472034@w36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #1076 |
On Apr 13, 4:57 pm, Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcma...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:33:54 -0700, Peter Lauren wrote: > > I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the > > Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local PC. > > You can not run php code on your browser. > > php code as you understand it runs in a script processor that operates > within a web server environment and generates output that that web server > then delivers to a web browser across an internet connection. > > Rgds > > Denis McMahon I understand that now. What I meant was that I would like my code to run on my machine and on a remote machine and have the output rendered on my browser and on a remote user's browser. I think I can see why I cannot use /localhost/ when it is being accessed by a remote user. Seems I need to provide my IP address through the DNS. Thanks, Peter.
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| From | crankypuss <no@email.thanks> |
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| Date | 2011-04-19 03:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <6qkqq658hm095t6vgjagmamug6jnmik2rb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1178 |
Peter Lauren <peterdlauren@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 13, 4:57 pm, Denis McMahon <denis.m.f.mcma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:33:54 -0700, Peter Lauren wrote:
>> > I would like to run PHP and Java code on my own browser and over the
>> > Internet. It will be called from an hyml file that is on my local PC.
>>
>> You can not run php code on your browser.
>>
>> php code as you understand it runs in a script processor that operates
>> within a web server environment and generates output that that web server
>> then delivers to a web browser across an internet connection.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Denis McMahon
>
>I understand that now. What I meant was that I would like my code to
>run on my machine and on a remote machine and have the output rendered
>on my browser and on a remote user's browser.
I suspect that you mean "run on my machine OR on a remote machine".
Since http is a point-to-point protocol, having the output for a given
request rendered on two browsers ("on my browser and on a remote
user's browser") is fairly difficult and requires a good bit of custom
server coding.
--
no aluminum siding offers today
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| From | Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> |
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| Date | 2011-04-09 12:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <9oc0q6l15jqoterfgr6j55mcvlkor0g3h7@mfesser.de> |
| In reply to | #1017 |
.oO(Peter Lauren) >Still haven't figured out how to get it to work w/o the /localhost/ >part though Not possible. In order to access your websites via HTTP you have to use a URL, which has to include a hostname. If you don't like 'localhost', you can add another one, but it has to be at least one char long. So even then you would have to use a URL like http://x/ to access your pages. No HTTP request without a hostname. Micha
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