Re: Time for a new language?

From	Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.misc
Subject	Re: Time for a new language?
Date	2011-06-16 09:32 +0000
Organization	Stack Usenet News Service
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On 2011-06-14, Torben ?gidius Mogensen <torbenm@diku.dk> wrote:
>> Java can be between High and Higher, but it's nothing I need to worry 
>> about. 
>
> One way of seeing the distinction is how removed from a particular
> physical machine the language is: The less assumptions a langauge makes
> about the machine, the higher level.

Higher level is not more abstraction from the machine, but closer to the
problem domain. 

While the first steps away from assembler are the same in both definitions,
one could discuss if Java really is closer to the problem domain than e.g. 
C++.  They are both similar OOP general purpose languages.

Scripting languages originally were closer to the problem domain, since they
were engineered to script various binaries together in a "script", and thus
more highlevel. 

An OS specific scripting language is thus still more highlevel than a
general purpose portable language.

Well, unless you define portability as your main problem domain, obviously
;-)

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Re: Time for a new language? Jacko <jackokring@gmail.com> - 2011-05-03 18:58 -0700
  Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-06 10:16 -0500
    Re: Time for a new language? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-06-06 21:45 +0200
      Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-06 13:10 -0700
        Re: Time for a new language? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-06-08 14:09 +0200
          Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-08 12:56 -0500
            Re: Time for a new language? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-06-09 02:31 +0200
              Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-09 09:10 -0500
              Re: Time for a new language? cri@tiac.net (Richard Harter) - 2011-06-09 16:37 +0000
                Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-09 10:39 -0700
                Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-10 04:46 -0700
                Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-10 12:15 -0700
          Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-08 11:03 -0700
      Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-06 16:47 -0500
        Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-07 01:17 -0700
          Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 03:07 -0700
            Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-07 04:21 -0700
          Re: Time for a new language? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-07 11:26 +0100
            Re: Time for a new language? pete <pfiland@mindspring.com> - 2011-06-07 07:45 -0400
              Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 13:02 -0700
            Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-07 12:49 -0700
          Re: Time for a new language? gremnebulin <peterdjones@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-13 16:36 -0700
          Re: Time for a new language? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 10:25 +1200
            Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-16 23:11 -0700
              Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-17 01:39 -0700
                Re: Time for a new language? "H.J. Sander Bruggink" <sander.bruggink@uni-due.de> - 2011-06-17 11:05 +0200
                Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-17 02:54 -0700
                Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 10:55 -0700
            Re: Time for a new language? tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-17 00:55 -0700
        Re: Time for a new language? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-06-08 23:54 +0200
          Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-08 17:37 -0500
        Re: Time for a new language? Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl> - 2011-06-14 10:23 +0000
        Re: Time for a new language? torbenm@diku.dk (Torben Ægidius Mogensen) - 2011-06-14 16:45 +0200
          Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-14 15:11 -0700
          Re: Time for a new language? "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-06-15 01:41 -0400
            Re: Time for a new language? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-06-15 15:40 +0200
          Re: Time for a new language? Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl> - 2011-06-16 09:32 +0000
            Re: Time for a new language? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-06-17 03:25 +0200
              Re: Time for a new language? Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl> - 2011-06-17 08:38 +0000
                Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-17 07:42 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl> - 2011-06-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-17 08:48 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 14:07 -0700
                Re: Time for a new language? Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl> - 2011-06-19 15:57 +0000
                Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-20 13:21 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-06-17 22:10 +0200
                Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-17 07:47 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? Marco van de Voort <marcov@turtle.stack.nl> - 2011-06-17 13:02 +0000
                Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-17 09:06 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-17 07:53 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 13:37 -0700
                Re: Time for a new language? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-06-17 19:25 +0200
                Re: Time for a new language? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201106.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-06-22 09:41 +0200
                Re: Time for a new language? torbenm@diku.dk (Torben Ægidius Mogensen) - 2011-06-22 11:06 +0200
                Re: Time for a new language? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2011-06-22 19:30 +0200
                Re: Time for a new language? "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-22 10:21 +0100
              Re: Time for a new language? "Tony" <nospam@myisp.net> - 2011-06-17 07:37 -0500
                Re: Time for a new language? BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-17 11:18 -0700

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