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slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop

Started byMadhu <enometh@meer.net>
First post2026-04-25 20:35 +0530
Last post2026-06-08 04:06 +0530
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  slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-04-25 20:35 +0530
    Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 18:27 +0000
    Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-05-07 05:22 +0530
      Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-07 15:14 -0400
        Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-05-08 09:48 +0530
          Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:50 -0400
            Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-06-03 09:21 +0530
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 22:48 -0400
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-04 03:22 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 17:01 -0400
                  Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-04 22:42 +0000
                    Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-06-08 04:13 +0530
                      Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:22 +0000
                        Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 07:52 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                  Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:24 +0000
                    Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:57 +0100
                      Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-08 09:25 -0400
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:31 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-07 12:31 -0700
                  Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-08 02:27 +0000
                    Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 07:36 +0000
                      Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:30 +0000
                        Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:25 -0400
                        Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 05:49 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-06-08 04:06 +0530

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#60815

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-08 02:27 +0000
Message-ID<11059b8$2u485$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60809
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 12:31:27 -0700, Paul Rubin wrote:

> I've used [setq] because I was used to it from Emacs Lisp ..

Emacs lisp supports setf.

Yes, I have the habit of using setq, too ...

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#60816

Fromtfb <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-08 07:36 +0000
Message-ID<1105rek$329uh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60815
Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> 
> Emacs lisp supports setf.

It does now, it didn't.  I'd certainly use setq if I had to write elisp
again.
 
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www.tfeb.org/computer/

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#60824

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-09 00:30 +0000
Message-ID<1107mr0$3k6ea$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60816
On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 07:36:52 -0000 (UTC), tfb wrote:

> Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Emacs lisp supports setf.
>
> It does now, it didn't. I'd certainly use setq if I had to write
> elisp again.

When did you last do so?

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#60829

Fromsteve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-09 00:25 -0400
Message-ID<87ldcoxrup.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#60824
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

> On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 07:36:52 -0000 (UTC), tfb wrote:
>
< > Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
< >>
< >> Emacs lisp supports setf.
< >
< > It does now, it didn't. I'd certainly use setq if I had to write
< > elisp again.
>
> When did you last do so?


I just read a book on AI algos...

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#60831

Fromtfb <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-06-09 05:49 +0000
Message-ID<11089h6$3oj2a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60824
Lawrence D´Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> 
> When did you last do so?
> 

last commit to my elisp repo was early 2025, the previous one was early
2024.  Pretty much these are adjustments for new versions of emacs or macos
lossage.  The last time I wrote anything seriously was likely two decades
ago now.

-- 
www.tfeb.org/computer/

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#60810

FromMadhu <enometh@meer.net>
Date2026-06-08 04:06 +0530
Message-ID<m3tsre0yhy.fsf@pison.robolove.meer.net>
In reply to#60807
* tfb <11046ce$2ktnj$1@dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Sun, 7 Jun 2026 16:31:10 -0000 (UTC):

>> it's the greatest thing because you can use SETQ
>> instead of SETF.
> Uh, is this some joke I am missing?  Do people really still use SETQ?  Do
> they think it is somehow an advantage?  If so, how?

freedom of choice.   s w e e t     f r e e e d o m

coming from english perhaps you can appreciate nuances of usage: the
distinction between "a" and "an" before words, and the and how it sounds
when non-natives[2] elide[1] the distinction

1 original sense of elide,
2 non-native speakers of course (I am one)

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