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Resources to learn common lisp?

Started byMario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es>
First post2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
Last post2026-06-03 03:16 +0000
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  Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-20 22:53 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2026-02-20 22:00 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:25 +0100
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-21 10:24 -0500
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-21 21:30 +0000
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-22 01:08 +0100
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 04:59 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-02-22 10:59 +0530
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-22 21:48 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:43 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:41 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 20:02 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:23 -0400
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:28 +0000
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:32 +0000
                    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:27 -0400
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:16 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:53 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Axel Reichert <mail@axel-reichert.de> - 2026-06-09 12:07 +0200
                  Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:14 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:35 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-08 12:37 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:33 +0000
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:22 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Alan Bawden <alan@csail.mit.edu> - 2026-06-09 01:22 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:17 +0000
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 06:50 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:40 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-10 12:24 -0400
            Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-09 09:36 -0400
              Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:06 +0000
                Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-10 08:43 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 17:44 -0500
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:30 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-20 23:50 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-02-21 00:24 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-02-21 11:36 +0100
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> - 2026-02-21 12:44 +0100
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-03-31 17:47 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-31 23:41 +0000
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? tpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com> - 2026-04-01 13:23 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 10:52 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 10:57 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Peri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net> - 2026-05-01 11:06 -0400
    Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-01 14:56 -0400
      Re: Resources to learn common lisp? "Robert B. Carleton" <rbc@rbcarleton.net> - 2026-06-01 23:02 +0000
        Re: Resources to learn common lisp? steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:32 -0400
          Re: Resources to learn common lisp? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-03 03:16 +0000

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#60775

Fromtpeplt <tpeplt@gmail.com>
Date2026-04-01 13:23 -0400
Message-ID<87tstu1tor.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#60773
steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:

> Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> writes:
>
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I want to learn Common Lisp, but I don't really know what resources to
>> use.
>>
>> What did you all use to learn? Is that even relevant? Is this newsgroup
>> active?
>>
>> Thanks for everyone in advice
>
> https://lisp-lang.org/books/
>

Oddly, this list does not include "COMMON LISP: A Gentle
Introduction to Symbolic Computation", by David
S. Touretzky, which the computer science department at
Carnegie Mellon University provides as a .pdf file:

  https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/book.pdf

And it does not include "COMMON LISP: An Interactive
Approach", by Stuart C. Shapiro, which the State University
of New York at Buffalo provides as a .pdf file:

  https://cse.buffalo.edu/~shapiro/Commonlisp/commonLisp.pdf

> most people like graham. I personally like Norvig.
>
> the introduction in emacs on emacs-lisp is actually very good! C-h i m
> elisp (in emacs).
>

1. C-h i m only works if you have not used C-h i for other
info documentation.  It assumes that the info reader starts
in the directory.  More generally, type C-h i followed by
‘d’ (to go to the directory) and then ‘m’ to specify a menu
entry.

2. C-h i d m elisp would open the Emacs Lisp reference
manual, which is not the Introduction to Emacs Lisp.  For
that, use C-h i d m, and then type Emacs Lisp Intro at the
"menu item:" prompt.

-- 
The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.
- Geoffrey Chaucer, The Parliament of Birds.

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#60781

FromPeri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net>
Date2026-05-01 10:52 -0400
Message-ID<b60136f6-aa41-476d-bbda-905c0add9d9c@torfree.net>
In reply to#60742
On 2026-02-20 16:53, Mario Rosell wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> I want to learn Common Lisp, but I don't really know what resources to
> use.
> 
> What did you all use to learn? Is that even relevant? Is this newsgroup
> active?
> 
> Thanks for everyone in advice
> 

Another great book is Mark Watson's _Loving Common Lisp, or the Savvy's 
Programmer's Secret Weapon_ (last updated April 22nd 2026!)
               https://leanpub.com/lovinglisp

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#60782

FromPeri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net>
Date2026-05-01 10:57 -0400
Message-ID<64b0e0a8-e3c5-475a-9235-63c2b3d293c9@torfree.net>
In reply to#60742
On 2026-02-20 16:53, Mario Rosell wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> I want to learn Common Lisp, but I don't really know what resources to
> use.
> 
> What did you all use to learn? Is that even relevant? Is this newsgroup
> active?
> 
> Thanks for everyone in advice
> 
Another very good author is Mark Watson, with his excellent, and very 
current book: Loving Common Lisp, or a Savvy's Programmer's Secret 
Weapon' :  https://leanpub.com/lovinglisp .

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#60783

FromPeri Didaskalou <pfd@torfree.net>
Date2026-05-01 11:06 -0400
Message-ID<a683ef05-25c4-404d-9c30-1594286bb3a1@torfree.net>
In reply to#60742
On 2026-02-20 16:53, Mario Rosell wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> I want to learn Common Lisp, but I don't really know what resources to
> use.
> 
> What did you all use to learn? Is that even relevant? Is this newsgroup
> active?
> 
> Thanks for everyone in advice
> 
Another very good author is Mark Watson, with his excellent, and very 
current book: Loving Common Lisp, or a Savvy's Programmer's Secret 
Weapon' :  https://leanpub.com/lovinglisp

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#60794

Fromsteve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-01 14:56 -0400
Message-ID<87ldcyum1e.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#60742
Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> writes:

> Hello everyone!
>
> I want to learn Common Lisp, but I don't really know what resources to
> use.
>
> What did you all use to learn? Is that even relevant? Is this newsgroup
> active?
>
> Thanks for everyone in advice


best book that helped me was


Paradigms of AI Programming: Case Studies in Common Lisp
Book by Peter Norvig

.

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#60796

From"Robert B. Carleton" <rbc@rbcarleton.net>
Date2026-06-01 23:02 +0000
Message-ID<RKudnarraKMXkoP3nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#60794
On Mon, 01 Jun 2026 14:56:45 -0400, steve g wrote:

> Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> writes:
> 
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I want to learn Common Lisp, but I don't really know what resources to
>> use.
>>
>> What did you all use to learn? Is that even relevant? Is this newsgroup
>> active?
>>
>> Thanks for everyone in advice
> 
> 
> best book that helped me was
> 
> 
> Paradigms of AI Programming: Case Studies in Common Lisp Book by Peter
> Norvig
> 
> .

This thread has been going on a while, but I'll add my two cents. I
started with PAIP, but it felt kind of steep to this non-computer
scientist at that time.

I switched to Common Lisp: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic
Computation (Touretzky), one of the books cited in PAIP. I made good
progress through chapter 8, but at that point I started to lose
momentum.

This led me to LISP (3rd edition) by Patrick Henry Winston and Berthold
Klaus Paul Horn. It's another PAIP recommendation. It felt like that
book was paced better for my circumstances. If you work through section
one and two, that's a pretty good tour of Common Lisp.

I hope that's helpful.

Cheers,

			--Bruce

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#60798

Fromsteve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-02 21:32 -0400
Message-ID<87ik80cssl.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#60796
"Robert B. Carleton" <rbc@rbcarleton.net> writes:

> On Mon, 01 Jun 2026 14:56:45 -0400, steve g wrote:
>
< > Mario Rosell <mario@mariorosell.es> writes:

 [...]
 
< > Paradigms of AI Programming: Case Studies in Common Lisp Book by Peter
< > Norvig
< > 


> This thread has been going on a while, but I'll add my two cents. I
> started with PAIP, but it felt kind of steep to this non-computer
> scientist at that time.

agreed.

> I switched to Common Lisp: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic
> Computation (Touretzky), one of the books cited in PAIP. I made good
> progress through chapter 8, but at that point I started to lose
> momentum.


This is also en excellent book. its been so long I forgot about it.

> This led me to LISP (3rd edition) by Patrick Henry Winston and Berthold
> Klaus Paul Horn. It's another PAIP recommendation. It felt like that
> book was paced better for my circumstances. If you work through section
> one and two, that's a pretty good tour of Common Lisp.

With PAIP you can get the source code in java. this should make it
easier for some people.


> I hope that's helpful.


same here, thanx.

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#60800

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-03 03:16 +0000
Message-ID<10vo69r$3c3bl$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60798
On Tue, 02 Jun 2026 21:32:42 -0400, steve g wrote:

> With PAIP you can get the source code in java. this should make it
> easier for some people.

Especially if it highlights how convoluted it is to do a lot of the
same things in Java ...

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