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Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop

From steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.lisp
Subject Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop
References (5 earlier) <m3o6hscmdo.fsf@pison.robolove.meer.net> <10vqr13$4jdd$1@dont-email.me> <87se72xbnk.fsf@gmail.com> <10vsuvs$nejc$4@dont-email.me> <m3pl220y50.fsf@pison.robolove.meer.net>
Date 2026-06-19 22:05 -0400
Message-ID <87a4sqhsp6.fsf@gmail.com> (permalink)

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Madhu <enometh@meer.net> writes:

> * Lawrence D’Oliveiro <10vsuvs$nejc$4@dont-email.me> :
> Wrote on Thu, 4 Jun 2026 22:42:04 -0000 (UTC):
>>> yes and no. setf if a fat macro, setq is preferable to set.
>>
>> Why “preferable”? Seems to me you have less to worry about in terms of
>> special cases if you just use setf.
>
> Here we go again.
>
> SETQ modified bindings. variable bindings.
>
> SETF is a generalized mechanism to modify "places" (which includes
> variable bindings)
>
> using SETQ signals that there is nothing complicated going on under the
> surface syntax. EXCEPT IN SYMBOL-MACROLET where it is defined to work as
> SETF, which is the context in which I made the **** comment



thank you for your elegant explanation.

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slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-04-25 20:35 +0530
  Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-25 18:27 +0000
  Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-05-07 05:22 +0530
    Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-05-07 15:14 -0400
      Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-05-08 09:48 +0530
        Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 21:50 -0400
          Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-06-03 09:21 +0530
            Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-03 22:48 -0400
            Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-04 03:22 +0000
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-04 17:01 -0400
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-04 22:42 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-06-08 04:13 +0530
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:22 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 07:52 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-13 12:41 -0700
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:04 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 01:48 -0700
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-14 23:52 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-14 17:31 -0700
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-16 00:14 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 22:05 -0400
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 22:04 -0400
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:24 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:57 +0100
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-06-08 09:25 -0400
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-15 10:22 +0100
            Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:31 +0000
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2026-06-07 12:31 -0700
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-08 02:27 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 07:36 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:30 +0000
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-09 00:25 -0400
                Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop tfb <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-09 05:49 +0000
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-06-08 04:06 +0530
              Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 23:10 -0400
  Re: slot-value-using-class to remap "virtual" slots & closer-mop steve g <Sgonedes1977@gmail.com> - 2026-06-19 22:00 -0400

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