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  Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-12 21:26 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-12 21:42 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-12-12 19:24 -0800
      Re: Why just this group? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 11:43 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-13 12:46 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 13:53 +0000
          Re: Why just this group? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 15:58 +0000
            Re: Why just this group? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2011-12-14 21:30 +0100
    Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-12 21:48 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-13 08:57 +1100
        Re: Why just this group? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2011-12-12 23:08 +0100
          Re: Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-13 10:16 +0000
            Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-13 10:32 +0000
              Re: Why just this group? Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 13:56 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-12 22:22 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-12-13 14:30 +0100
        Re: Why just this group? Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2011-12-13 08:58 -0500
    Re: Why just this group? Lewis Perin <perin@panix.com> - 2011-12-12 17:47 -0500
      Re: Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-13 10:18 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-12-13 00:15 +0100
      Re: Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-13 10:27 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 04:14 -0800
      Re: Why just this group? John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 16:06 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? Dr J R Stockton <reply1150@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 20:02 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-13 17:29 -0800
        Re: Why just this group? "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-14 09:11 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-14 10:25 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2011-12-17 01:51 -0500
      Re: Why just this group? Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2011-12-17 18:55 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-18 11:06 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201112.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-12-18 16:23 +0100
          Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-18 15:47 +0000
            Re: Why just this group? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201112.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-12-19 07:59 +0100
      Re: Why just this group? Dr J R Stockton <reply1150@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-18 19:09 +0000

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#9176

In article <1810847.7NaK4W3vae@PointedEars.de>,
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  <cljs@PointedEars.de> wrote:
> Tony Mountifield wrote:
> 
> > I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> > javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> > that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
> > why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.
> 
> This is a FAQ (more like a FFQ).  There are several reasons for the spam, 
> *none* of which is on-topic here (so you should *not* have asked *here*).

Danke für den ernsten Rat!

> One has been named.  Another is that even without the spam this is or at 
> least has been a high-traffic group.  Third, JavaScript, and ECMAScript 
> implementations in general, have become a "household topic" among software 
> developers.  Spammers post where they suspect the most attention.

If that were the case, I would expect to see at least some in other high-
traffic groups. I'm glad I don't.

Cheers
Tony
-- 
Tony Mountifield
Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

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#9179

On Dec 13, 10:27 am, Tony Mountifield wrote:
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn  wrote:
<snip>
>> One has been named.  Another is that even without the spam this
>> is or at least has been a high-traffic group.  Third, JavaScript,
>> and ECMAScript implementations in general, have become a
>> "household topic" among software developers.  Spammers post where
>> they suspect the most attention.
>
> If that were the case, I would expect to see at least some in other
> high-traffic groups. I'm glad I don't.

The group's traffic levels are unlikely to be a significant factor as
we are not the intended audience for this spam. Apart from having
"script" in the name of the group the other factor that is likely to
be important is the degree to which content from this group is made
available on various (mostly web development related) web sites. These
spams are a trap for people using search engines to find cheap or
dubious drug suppliers and posting to Usenet, as such, would not help
with that.

Richard.

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#9187

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 at 00:15:45, in comp.lang.javascript, Thomas
'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>Tony Mountifield wrote:
>
>> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
>> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
>> why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.
>
>This is a FAQ (more like a FFQ).  There are several reasons for the spam,
>*none* of which is on-topic here (so you should *not* have asked *here*).
  <snip>

Threats to a newsgroup are always On Topic for that newsgroup.

Did you think you were quoting an authoritative definition of 'On
Topic'? If so, which?

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#9201

In comp.lang.javascript message <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>, Mon,
12 Dec 2011 21:26:21, Tony Mountifield <tony@mountifield.org> posted:

>I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
>that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
>why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.

You're apparently using albasini.net, by intent or otherwise.  Use
eternal-September instead.  If your ISP prevents that, migrate.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK.    ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk     Turnpike v6.05.
 Website  <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - w. FAQish topics, links, acronyms
 PAS EXE etc. : <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/programs/> - see in 00index.htm
 Dates - miscdate.htm estrdate.htm js-dates.htm pas-time.htm critdate.htm etc.

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#9206

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:02:25 +0000, Dr J R Stockton
<reply1150@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In comp.lang.javascript message <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>, Mon,
>12 Dec 2011 21:26:21, Tony Mountifield <tony@mountifield.org> posted:
>
>>I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>>javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
>>that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
>>why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.
>
>You're apparently using albasini.net, by intent or otherwise.  Use
>eternal-September instead.  If your ISP prevents that, migrate.

     What he said.  I use ES and do not have a spam problem with this
group.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#9211

Gene Wirchenko wrote on 14 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:

> What he said.  I use ES and do not have a spam problem with this
> group.
> 

Perhals some use EO being confused by zero or one based months?

-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#9213

In article <4vufe7p9h2jrkj79nk58i93ojtijt2161p@4ax.com>,
 Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:02:25 +0000, Dr J R Stockton
> <reply1150@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >In comp.lang.javascript message <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>, Mon,
> >12 Dec 2011 21:26:21, Tony Mountifield <tony@mountifield.org> posted:
> >
> >>I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> >>javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> >>that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
> >>why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.
> >
> >You're apparently using albasini.net, by intent or otherwise.  Use
> >eternal-September instead.  If your ISP prevents that, migrate.
> 
>      What he said.  I use ES and do not have a spam problem with this
> group.

I'm using individual.net and there has not been a single spam in the 
last 36 hours. So *on* go my filters again.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#9331

"Tony Mountifield"  wrote in message 
news:jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk...

> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql,
> php, perl, javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only
> comp.lang.javascript that appears to have this perennial problem
> with spam. Just wondering why this group gets picked on, while
> the others are generally clean.

I've noticed that as well. I don't have effective spam filters in WLM, but I 
take perverse pleasure at highlighting blocks of spam and using the DEL key 
as a trigger for my zapper. On the rare occasions I access via GoogleGroups, 
I have noticed that this NG consistently ranks much higher than others. So 
the spammers target it and their spam counts as activity which further 
boosts the ranking.

Or maybe as others observed it is the "script" in the name.

Or maybe JavaScript developers have a particularly strong need for such 
drugs due to the nature of the language?

Paul 

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#9353

"P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> wrote in
news:QZWGq.24409$Q83.8923@newsfe17.iad: 

> Or maybe JavaScript developers have a particularly strong need for
> such drugs due to the nature of the language?

"Give me librium, or give me meth!"

(With apologies to Patrick Henry.)

-- 
http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm

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#9357

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 at 01:51:19, in comp.lang.javascript, P E Schoen
wrote:

  <snip>
>Or maybe as others observed it is the "script" in the name.
  <snip>

I've looked at
  alt.satellite.tv.script,
  fr.comp.lang.javascript, and
  sci.med.transcription
and found that all three are low traffic and get no floods of our kind
of medicine spam. Only fclj got any med-spam at all in the last few
months.

I don't think it's as simple as having 'script' in the group name.

  John
-- 
John Harris

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#9358

Many other people in other groups are bitching about this as well.

To you all I say "learn to killfile google groups"

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#9359

In article 
<bbff59de7b7342a688755dc28cbe6eb3@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
 Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201112.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> 
 wrote:

> Many other people in other groups are bitching about this as well.

What, about spam? What spam?

> To you all I say "learn to killfile google groups"

I have some filters that kill some posts from specific individuals. None 
of those filters has fired for quite some time.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#9397

> > Many other people in other groups are bitching about this as well.
> 
> What, about spam? What spam?

Exactly my dear Watson :-)

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#9390

In comp.lang.javascript message <QZWGq.24409$Q83.8923@newsfe17.iad>,
Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:51:19, P E Schoen <paul@pstech-inc.com> posted:

>
>Or maybe as others observed it is the "script" in the name.
>

That is not a sufficient criterion, since no.c.l.j is spam-free.  Alas,
it is also j-free.

-- 
 (c) John Stockton, nr London UK. replyYYWW merlyn demon co uk Turnpike 6.05.
   Web <http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html> -> Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
   Web <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/news-use.htm> :  about usage of News.

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