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  Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-12 21:26 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-12 21:42 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? RobG <rgqld@iinet.net.au> - 2011-12-12 19:24 -0800
      Re: Why just this group? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 11:43 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-13 12:46 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 13:53 +0000
          Re: Why just this group? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 15:58 +0000
            Re: Why just this group? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2011-12-14 21:30 +0100
    Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-12 21:48 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2011-12-13 08:57 +1100
        Re: Why just this group? Hans-Georg Michna <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> - 2011-12-12 23:08 +0100
          Re: Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-13 10:16 +0000
            Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-13 10:32 +0000
              Re: Why just this group? Swifty <steve.j.swift@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 13:56 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-12 22:22 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-12-13 14:30 +0100
        Re: Why just this group? Tim Slattery <Slattery_T@bls.gov> - 2011-12-13 08:58 -0500
    Re: Why just this group? Lewis Perin <perin@panix.com> - 2011-12-12 17:47 -0500
      Re: Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-13 10:18 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-12-13 00:15 +0100
      Re: Why just this group? tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) - 2011-12-13 10:27 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 04:14 -0800
      Re: Why just this group? John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 16:06 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? Dr J R Stockton <reply1150@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 20:02 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-13 17:29 -0800
        Re: Why just this group? "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-14 09:11 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-14 10:25 +0000
    Re: Why just this group? "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2011-12-17 01:51 -0500
      Re: Why just this group? Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2011-12-17 18:55 +0000
      Re: Why just this group? John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-18 11:06 +0000
        Re: Why just this group? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201112.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-12-18 16:23 +0100
          Re: Why just this group? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-18 15:47 +0000
            Re: Why just this group? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201112.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2011-12-19 07:59 +0100
      Re: Why just this group? Dr J R Stockton <reply1150@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-18 19:09 +0000

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#9159 — Why just this group?

I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.

Cheers
Tony
-- 
Tony Mountifield
Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

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#9160

Tony Mountifield wrote on 12 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:

> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
> why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.

This is usenet, I don't know what NGs you mean by 'Web/DB kind'.
You cannot subscribe to a usenet group, only order your reader to read it.

I never see spam on this NG, but then I block google group mail here and 
heve some aditional filtering done.


-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#9171

On Dec 13, 7:42 am, "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivo...@interxnl.net> wrote:
[...]
> You cannot subscribe to a usenet group, only order your reader to read it.

Perhaps your news reader doesn't call that subscribing, but some (e.g.
Thunderbird) do.


--
Rob

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#9178

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:42:58 +0000, Evertjan. wrote:

> Tony Mountifield wrote on 12 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:
> 
>> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only
>> comp.lang.javascript that appears to have this perennial problem with
>> spam. Just wondering why this group gets picked on, while the others
>> are generally clean.

I think it's because the group name contains the string "script" which is 
used as a shorthand for "prescription" in some parts of the world.

> This is usenet, I don't know what NGs you mean by 'Web/DB kind'. You
> cannot subscribe to a usenet group, only order your reader to read it.

Nevertheless, the commands many usenet newsreaders such as pan, 
thunderbird, agent etc use to start / stop monitoring the content of a 
group are "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" and the trm is IMO in common use 
in that context.

> I never see spam on this NG, but then I block google group mail here and
> heve some aditional filtering done.

I alas still see the odd one or two, but then I don't automatically 
exclude google groups posters, although I have a long and growing list of 
medicine names that I do filter on.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

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#9181

Denis McMahon wrote on 13 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:

> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:42:58 +0000, Evertjan. wrote:
> 
>> Tony Mountifield wrote on 12 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:
>> 
>>> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php,
>>> perl, javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only
>>> comp.lang.javascript that appears to have this perennial problem
>>> with spam. Just wondering why this group gets picked on, while the
>>> others are generally clean.
> 
> I think it's because the group name contains the string "script" which
> is used as a shorthand for "prescription" in some parts of the world.

Could very well be true, any idea of testing for this?

Renaming this group seems not very practical. 

>> This is usenet, I don't know what NGs you mean by 'Web/DB kind'. You
>> cannot subscribe to a usenet group, only order your reader to read
>> it. 
> 
> Nevertheless, the commands many usenet newsreaders such as pan, 
> thunderbird, agent etc use to start / stop monitoring the content of a
> group are "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" and the trm is IMO in common
> use in that context.

Ain't it silly?

>> I never see spam on this NG, but then I block google group mail here
>> and heve some aditional filtering done.
> 
> I alas still see the odd one or two, but then I don't automatically 
> exclude google groups posters, although I have a long and growing list
> of medicine names that I do filter on.

I feel vey happy not knowing what I am missing, silly me.


-- 
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

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#9183

On 13 Dec 2011 11:43:42 GMT, Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I have a long and growing list of medicine names that I do filter on.

As do I. Perhaps we should share?

I wrote a tiny program, called "spam" and when I issue the command
"spam viagra" it tells me how often I have entered the name "viagra"
and over what period of days.

When anything reaches a count of 3, it goes in my filter.

It always struck me as amusing that the spammers are obliged to use
the exact name for the drugs (who would dose themselves with something
and then find themselves dying from a misprint?) and the names can
never match typical words. So, they are simple to filter, apart from
the fact that you have to watch out for new names appearing.

Hence my little program. I can't remember how many times I've seen
"ultracet" (twice so far - teetering on the brink).

Talking of brinks, I was just on the brink of doing something silly. I
was going to append my list here. Then I realised that this would
sound the spam alarms of everyone who has such a filter, and almost
certainly you!

-- 
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

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#9186

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:53:24 +0000, Swifty wrote:

> Talking of brinks, I was just on the brink of doing something silly. I
> was going to append my list here. Then I realised that this would sound
> the spam alarms of everyone who has such a filter, and almost certainly
> you!

Not mine, as I filter on headers, not content.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

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#9237

On 13 Dec 2011 15:58:32 GMT, Denis McMahon wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:53:24 +0000, Swifty wrote:

>> Talking of brinks, I was just on the brink of doing something silly. I
>> was going to append my list here. Then I realised that this would sound
>> the spam alarms of everyone who has such a filter, and almost certainly
>> you!

>Not mine, as I filter on headers, not content.

That is probably much better. I think content filtering is bad.

Hans-Georg

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#9161

In article <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>,
 tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) wrote:

> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam.

What spam?

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#9162

On 13/12/2011 8:48 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>,
> tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) wrote:
>
>> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
>> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam.
>
> What spam?

This group gets tonnes of spam posting per day, every day. Just because 
you're filtering it doesn't mean its not happening.

My conspiracy theory is that its one of the more popular js library 
fanbois work ;-)

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#9163

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:57:41 +1100, Andrew Poulos wrote:

>My conspiracy theory is that its one of the more popular js library 
>fanbois work ;-)

That would be a huge compliment. It would indicate that we are
in the right place.

By the way, this is not really much spam. Even if you don't
filter, it takes only seconds to delete by hand.

Hans-Georg

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#9174

In article <5puce7pgp529t928ltdibbgm3niafta2be@4ax.com>,
Hans-Georg Michna  <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:57:41 +1100, Andrew Poulos wrote:
> 
> >My conspiracy theory is that its one of the more popular js library 
> >fanbois work ;-)
> 
> That would be a huge compliment. It would indicate that we are
> in the right place.
> 
> By the way, this is not really much spam. Even if you don't
> filter, it takes only seconds to delete by hand.

Indeed, that's what I do, but I was just curious why this was the only
group in which I needed to do so.

Cheers
Tony
-- 
Tony Mountifield
Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

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#9177

In article <jc78l5$pj9$1@softins.clara.co.uk>,
 tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) wrote:

> In article <5puce7pgp529t928ltdibbgm3niafta2be@4ax.com>,
> Hans-Georg Michna  <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:57:41 +1100, Andrew Poulos wrote:
> > 
> > >My conspiracy theory is that its one of the more popular js library 
> > >fanbois work ;-)
> > 
> > That would be a huge compliment. It would indicate that we are
> > in the right place.
> > 
> > By the way, this is not really much spam. Even if you don't
> > filter, it takes only seconds to delete by hand.
> 
> Indeed, that's what I do, but I was just curious why this was the only
> group in which I needed to do so.

Has there been any spam in the last 12 hours since I disabled my 
filters? I haven't seen any.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#9184

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:32:35 +0000, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

>Has there been any spam in the last 12 hours since I disabled my 
>filters? I haven't seen any.

I haven't seen any, but my filter (medicine names) is active.

It comes in waves. I suspect something like "daily, but not weekends".
we could probably work out roughly where in the world the spammer is,
as they seem to observe public holidays as well.

-- 
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

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#9164

In article <PLCdnWP46IZD5XvTnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@westnet.com.au>,
 Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 13/12/2011 8:48 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> > In article <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>,
> > tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) wrote:
> >
> >> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> >> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> >> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam.
> >
> > What spam?
> 
> This group gets tonnes of spam posting per day, every day. Just because 
> you're filtering it doesn't mean its not happening.

I'm filtering next to nothing. Hmm, OK, disabled my filters altogether. 
Let's see if I get anything at all spamwise.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

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#9182

Andrew Poulos, 2011-12-12 22:57:

> On 13/12/2011 8:48 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <jc5rht$6nu$1@softins.clara.co.uk>,
>> tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) wrote:
>>
>>> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>>> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
>>> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam.
>>
>> What spam?
> 
> This group gets tonnes of spam posting per day, every day. Just because 
> you're filtering it doesn't mean its not happening.

I don't see "tons of spam" here (but i did a few weeks/months ago).
Maybe the sever i use, does filtering on its own.


-- 
Arno Welzel
http://arnowelzel.de
http://de-rec-fahrrad.de

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#9185

Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> wrote:

>This group gets tonnes of spam posting per day, every day. Just because 
>you're filtering it doesn't mean its not happening.

I see a flood of spam once in a while, definitely not every day. Not
even every week.

And it always comes through Google's usenet interface.

-- 
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

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#9165

tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) writes:

>I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
>javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
>that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
>why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.

Maybe it’s because in the USA “script” is short for “prescription”.  The
spammers here are mostly hawking drugs, after all...

/Lew
---
Lew Perin / perin@acm.org
http://babelcarp.org

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#9175

In article <pc7fwgpqufm.fsf@panix1.panix.com>,
Lewis Perin  <perin@panix.com> wrote:
> tony@mountifield.org (Tony Mountifield) writes:
> 
> >I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> >javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> >that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
> >why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.
> 
> Maybe it's because in the USA 'script' is short for 'prescription'.  The
> spammers here are mostly hawking drugs, after all...

That sounds a plausible reason, although I wish someone would give them
a better regular expression!

Cheers
Tony
-- 
Tony Mountifield
Work: tony@softins.co.uk - http://www.softins.co.uk
Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

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#9167

Tony Mountifield wrote:

> I subscribe to a number of Web/DB kind of newsgroups (mysql, php, perl,
> javascript, etc.), and out of all of them, it's only comp.lang.javascript
> that appears to have this perennial problem with spam. Just wondering
> why this group gets picked on, while the others are generally clean.

This is a FAQ (more like a FFQ).  There are several reasons for the spam, 
*none* of which is on-topic here (so you should *not* have asked *here*).

One has been named.  Another is that even without the spam this is or at 
least has been a high-traffic group.  Third, JavaScript, and ECMAScript 
implementations in general, have become a "household topic" among software 
developers.  Spammers post where they suspect the most attention.


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