Re: Difference between 3rd party and native [Confusion by Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

From	Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.javascript
Subject	Re: Difference between 3rd party and native [Confusion by Lawrence D'Oliveiro]
Date	2024-03-13 02:35 +0100
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I guess using XHR API is called "flogging
a dead horse". But actually I don't know
whether XHR API is dead or still alive.

Since I am a late adopter, I directly
adopted fetch API and never adopted XHR API.
Well its not 100% true, I did a little XHR,

before I switched to fetch. But I have no clue
about the feature matrix between fetch and XHR
or other weighting that would give a preference

over one or the other API. I simply don't care,
for me the most important factor is
"no 3rd party dependence".

Also W3C has given up on XHR 2:

Work on this document has been discontinued and it should not be 
referenced or used as a basis for implementation. Please refer to the 
XMLHttpRequest Living Standard for the latest available specification of 
this API.
https://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest2/

If I consults this news feed:

https://twitter.com/xhrstandard

Its full of do this like fetch() and
do that like fetch(). So they are indeed
flogging a dead horse.

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Important information for Lawrence D'Oliveiro.
> Basically you need to depend on a 3rd party that
> did implememt the xmlhttprequest node module.
> 
> Namely this here:
> https://www.npmjs.com/package/xmlhttprequest
> 
> You also need to install it besides the node.js
> installation itself. You need to install the
> node module package xmlhttprequest.
> 
> With fetch() you only need to install node.js,
> and nothing else. Because since release 21,
> fetch() is already part of native Node.js.
> 
> I wrote this already, but I can repeat it of
> course again and again and again for you:
> 
>  > Notable Changes - Oct 17, 2023
>  > The recent update to Node.js, version 21, includes
>  > an important change to the fetch module as well as
>  > WebStreams . Both modules were marked as stable
>  > after a recent update.
> https://nodejs.org/en/blog/announcements/v21-release-announce
> 
> Please feel free to ask more questions if
> your skull can not digest the information of
> a difference between these two concepts:
> - 3rd party API
> - native API
> 
> Best is if you open a separate thread to
> cleanup your confusion. Or see a psychatrist.
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>  > Natively Node.js does not provide the browser XHR API.
>  > There is, however, a node module xmlhttprequest that does.
>  >
>  > Lawrence D'Oliveiro schrieb:
>  >> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 00:19:57 +0100, Mild Shock wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> The same code runs on nodeJS.
>  >>> No need to install some XHR library.
>  >>
>  >> You don’t know how to use XMLHttpRequest directly?
>  >>
>  >

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