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Re: Silly Newbie Mistake

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On 12/08/2011 08:15 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On 08 Dec 2011 23:41:03 GMT, "Evertjan."
> <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>  wrote:
>
>> Gene Wirchenko wrote on 08 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:
>>
>>> On 08 Dec 2011 21:28:51 GMT, "Evertjan."
>>> <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gene Wirchenko wrote on 07 dec 2011 in comp.lang.javascript:
>>>
>>> [SNIP]
>>>
>>>> Why a bother? Debugging is just the way to unbother.
>>>
>>>       I have pages crash with no error message.  It is then a bother to
>>> hunt down errors.  Perhaps, you have your browser set up with all of
>>> the nifty settings for detecting AND REPORTING errors.  Despite
>>> looking for them repeatedly, I have been unable to find them.
>>
>> I mostly do not use [your nifty] browser debuggers.
>>
>> I just told you I set the necessary alert() breakpoints.
>
>       And I have said a number of times that some errors do not get
> picked up by that.  The page simply does not render.
>

   Are you saying that you don't even get the "page has completed but 
with errors" message at the bottom of the browser window, which when 
clicked on brings up a small pop-up window with an error message?

>> If the code does not run for syntactical reasons,
>> I remark out all the lines of code that could be the culprit,
>> and reinsert them in groups, using
>>
>> //....  or /*...*/,
>
>       I have done similarly.  I think that you can understand that
> having to do so is much much more effort than getting a message such
> as:
>            Syntax error in line 47 of somepage.html
> and proceeding from there.
>
> [snip]
>
>>> Sometimes,
>>> this causes problems though less than right after typing the code in.
>>
>> Why would that cause problems [stipulating that you understand the code?
>
>       Oh, come on!  Typos, and of course, if I am experimenting with
> features, your stipulation is silly: it is not a safe bet that I
> understand the code totally.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko

   Googling 'ie javascript debugger' brought up links that include these 
links.

http://www.debugbar.com/

http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=18359

http://projects.nikhilk.net/WebDevHelper/


-- 
Norman
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AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 10.04 64bit

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Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-06 18:32 -0800
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-07 08:43 +0000
    Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-07 10:16 -0800
      Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-08 21:28 +0000
        Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 14:36 -0800
          Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-08 22:39 +0000
            Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 17:10 -0800
              Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-09 10:13 +0000
          Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-08 23:41 +0000
            Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 17:15 -0800
              Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-09 08:59 +0000
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2011-12-09 13:03 +0000
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-12-09 15:39 +0100
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2011-12-10 00:40 +0000
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-12-10 13:19 +0100
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-09 15:13 +0000
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-09 10:01 -0800
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net> - 2011-12-10 15:07 +0000
              Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Norman Peelman <npeelmandog@cfl.rr.com> - 2011-12-09 06:44 -0500
                Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-09 10:04 -0800
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Steve Wakeford <wakeford83@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 05:40 -0800
    Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-07 15:35 +0000
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Jacob Block <jacob.block@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 09:20 -0800
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Jacob Block <jacob.block@gmail.com> - 2011-12-07 09:25 -0800
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-08 03:56 -0800
    Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "Mel Smith" <med_cutout_syntel@aol.com> - 2011-12-08 11:31 -0700
    Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 11:49 -0800
      Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-12-08 21:35 +0000
        Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 17:22 -0800
      Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 05:04 -0800
      Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Dr J R Stockton <reply1149@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-09 21:07 +0000
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Ross McKay <au.org.zeta.at.rosko@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-09 09:47 +1100
    Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 17:26 -0800
      Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Ross McKay <au.org.zeta.at.rosko@invalid.invalid> - 2011-12-09 12:47 +1100
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Dr J R Stockton <reply1149@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-08 19:40 +0000
    Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2011-12-08 17:24 -0800
      Re: Silly Newbie Mistake Dr J R Stockton <reply1149@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-12-10 23:41 +0000
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake kiran <kiranmbadi@gmail.com> - 2011-12-08 17:18 -0800
  Re: Silly Newbie Mistake "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2011-12-10 17:03 -0200

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