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Re: know its ipad

From Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de>
Newsgroups comp.lang.javascript
Subject Re: know its ipad
Date 2011-10-10 13:49 +0200
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David Mark, 2011-10-10 04:02:

> On Sunday, July 17, 2011 4:34:33 AM UTC-4, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Am 2011-07-15 00:11, schrieb Ry Nohryb:
>>
>>> On Jul 14, 11:04 am, Ry Nohryb <jo...@jorgechamorro.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 14, 1:51 am, RobG <rg...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (...)
>>>>> It really is quite simple. Try the following site:
>>>>
>>>>> <URL:http://www.seabreeze.com.au/graphs/qld2.asp>
>>>>> (...)
>>>>> That site was designed before touch devices were widely available
>>>>> (perhaps before they were available at all), yet maintains its
>>>>> functionality on various devices.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed, yes indeed, that's a page designed for a desktop that (barely)
>>>> functions on an iPhone, but it's far away from the best possible
>>>> experience for mobile users.
>>>
>>> To see what I mean, go, for example, to <http://thenextweb.com> with a
>>> desktop browser, and then with an iPad.
>>
>> A good example for a really bad design. Of course you must provide an
>> alternative version for mobile devices in this case.
> 
> Not necessarily, though bad designs do sometimes require multiple sites for the same content.

Well - this is, how i define "bad" ;-) A good design should not require
different sites for different devices. Only for "extreme" cases - e.g.
display on the small screen of a mobile phone with just 240 x 320 or 320
x 480 pixels may need a "mobile" version. But an iPad ist way off these
limits - according to <http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/> it offers 1024
x 768 pixels.

Well - designing elements to be handled easier with a touch interface
may be the point here - but then again it should not be assumed that
every touch device is iPad-like with a specific resolution. Android
exists as well and 800 x 480 is also a very common value.

[...]
>> The "desktop" version consist of dozens of single CSS and JSON files and
>> about 2.4 MB of data and thenextweb.com doesn't support compression.
> 
> Can't fix that (other than the compression). Start again. :(

Compression seems to work now - now just around 1 MB to load. Well...
still a lot, but better than nothing.


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Arno Welzel
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Re: know its ipad David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2011-10-09 19:02 -0700
  Re: know its ipad Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2011-10-10 13:49 +0200
    Re: know its ipad David Mark <dmark.cinsoft@gmail.com> - 2011-10-10 21:56 -0700

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